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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Larry Keating
Actor
1899-1963
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Keating
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7009778
http://people.theiapolis.com/actor-1FM2/larry-keating/
Actor
BY=?
Xena: Warrior Princess: Season Three
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1093960/
Also see this thread about the BY and that the tombstone date should be used.
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=684192
Profile Contribution Approved Jul 18 2013 10:30AM
The BY of the 2nd one ("Xena") might be 1949: From his homepage [Quote]: "His first adventure at age 27 was to Peru in 1976 to explore..."
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https://mediawave.co.nz/the-garden-of-evil/larry-keating-producer-director-writer-photographer/ | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Brandon James
Actor
BY=1982
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=brandonjames/gender=m/brandon-james.htm
Actor
BY=?
True Blood: The Complete Fifth Season
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3923263/reference
Profile Contribution Approved Jul 16 2014 9:34AM
The second one has a BY (and Deathyear) meanwhile: 1996 - 2017
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3923263/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t138 | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting emmeli:
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Stephen Hunter
Writer
BY=1946
Shooter
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2394211/
Actor
BY=????
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1053536/
Status: Approved Sep 4 2014
The BY of the Hobbit-Actor has been released: 1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hunter_(actor) | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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John Hopkins
1974
Merlin
Alice in Wonderland
Robin Hood
MI-5
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0394204/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hopkins_%28actor%29
Writer, Director & Producer
1931-1998
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0394200/
Actor
?
Astro Zombies (1969)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0394203/
Profile Contribution Approved Dec 14 2011 8:58AM
Don't know where 1974 for the first one comes as he is listed in wiki as well as in imdb with 1975? | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Robert Hoffman (Unknown) - actor, Little House on the Prairie
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0389075/
Meanwhile his BY is found: 1966
source:
https://littlehouse.fandom.com/wiki/Robert_Hoffman | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Sam Holland
Actor
BY=1999
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3027793/
https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/sam-holland-35389.php
https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/sam-holland.html
Actor
BY=1962
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0390820/
I got huge doubts about the BY of the second one or if his credits on the IMDB are correct:
Olaying a teen son on "Xena" when he was allready 23 years old might be possible, but as a "Lambeth Kid" in "Chaplin" when he allready was 30 sounds a little bit difficult.
IF THIS SITE is correct, he looks young, but there is no credit how old he was when the foto was shot:
https://www.tvmaze.com/people/98752/sam-holland | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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According to BYs:
I am a little bit confused as imo for some actors the BYs wouldn't be neccessary if there would have been done a search for their common name before.
Just two examples:
"Anthony Holland (1920)"
much more times credited as "Antony Holland"
and
"James Henrie (1993)"
much more times credited as "Lorenzo James Henrie"
So which rule is to prefer in such cases? The common name or the BY? | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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Quoting Behemot:
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Contributed and approved:
Jan Holden (British actress) (1931):
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/jan-holden-514017.html
http://www.zetaminor.com/roobarb/showthread.php?7593-Jan-Holden-(1931-2005)-RIP
Jan Holden (Norwegian Actor) (1966):
http://www.biip.no/default.aspx?section=skatt&page=person&id=1501778
http://www.proscen.no/index.php/medlem/51?PHPSESSID=yuqroyzforxisy
Is the 2nd one this one?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3422506/?ref_=tt_cl_t_17 | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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As there are two actresses of the same name (1944/1978) the CLT can't help that much.
So after a load of research I got the following credits in my collection:
Elizabeth Bennett
Ghost Whisperer (Season 2.7)
Castle (Season 1.7)
Liberty Heights
Elizabeth Ann Bennett
Heroes (Season 3.12)
Bones (Season 9.20)
The Dead Zone (1.4)
Any further counts are welcome! | Posted: Topic Replies: 0, Topic Views: 749 |
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Quoting Magmadrag:
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trying to submit
Mickey Finn (1933)
actor in Rawhide and others
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278152/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t17
Mickey Finn (1947)
musician of T.Rex, appearing on several concert dvds (impossible to find on imdb the easy way)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Finn_(drummer)
Mickey Finn (1919) (formerly 1933)
actor in Rawhide and others
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278152/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t17
Sad to say, but they changed/corrected his BY on IMDB, now he is 1919 | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting GSyren:
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@Magmadrag:
I think it's a mistake not to do everything possible to fix the database. Even if at the moment the problem only manifests itself during export, it's not going to get better, but it might very well get worse.
I see you haven't uploaded you collection since March 30. Does that mean that upload doesn't work for you either? Does backup work without errors?
It is, of course, entirely up to you if you want to ignore this problem. I'm just concerned that you may be setting yourself up for a bigger problem further on. 
First of all: Upload I do from time to time.... as you have been at my collection, you see the size. And this way the upload needs time. As I don't have the neccessity to show everybody all I bought for the last two months, the upload is not that relevant for me.
And according to the export problem: It is a couple of months ago, mabye one and a half years, when I was knee deep on solving this problem. And: EVERYTHING failed! Every solution caused more troubles than I had before. So what about if DJ Doena is right and it only depends on the old Win-32 Standard and the export is not possible as I got lots of foreign films with all those special characters? I'd like to say that there is nothing else left what it could be. Imagine spending 8 weeks, several hours a day, to find out, why the export doesn't work. And some of the solutions caused a database crush (inreperaible), made me un- and reinstalling profiler complete + creating a new database from a backup etc. etc.
After all those troubles without any visible result and as anything else works quite perfect (you know that other users have problems with their database with much smaller collections) there IS nothing else I could try.
According to the Win-32 Standard I had/have several "problems" or at least dislikes as some characters/special letters are available as they are included, others not as they are allready Win-64. Even tools have that problem on some special ways, and I had to learn, what doesn't work.
So I only can ask: A cleaned up working database of kind of an extraordinary size works. Would you provoke another crush only for the export if you don't need that feature? | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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Quoting Magmadrag:
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Trying to submit
Frank Dux (BY 1932)
(IMDB shows him as "Francis Dux")
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0245234/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t31
actor of "Little Shop of Horrors", "Highlander" and a view others
CLT only shows hin as "Francis" for several language versions of "La Comtesse de Hong Kong"
but as he domniats as "Frank" (16/151) in CLT against "Francis" (1/14) a BY might be the only chance to separate him from
Frank Dux (BY unknown)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0245235/?ref_=tt_cl_t_1
appearing in a view Martial Arts movies and in the docu "Put Up Your Dux"
@LKanne: Sorry for my misspelling in the last post, just corrected it
Meanwhile a BY for the MMA Fighter is available: 1956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dux | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting Gamemaster:
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Richard Davis (1930)
Songwriter, Actor
Under Siege
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0205328/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Davis
http://richarddavis.org/
For the one from "Under Siege" only the imdb-link is correct, the other two links fit another musician.
The one from "Under Siege" has his own site where the movie is mentioned and that he is the brother of the director:
https://chicagocatz.com/richie-davis/
And so his birthyear is wrong, too, as he is born on December 30, 1957
https://www.discogs.com/artist/4388043-Richie-Davis-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richie_Davis_(musician) | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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@GSyren:
Nice Idea but there is missing "the other part", too: If the production year is before the BY.... ;-) | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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It's simply calculation
"If Production Year < Birthyear"
then any "alarm" to check the cast/crew with the questionable birthyear.
Not really possible that a movie produced e. g. 1999 includes cast born 2004
That's all thought | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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I can ensure you, as long as there is data in the dummy profile, it doesn't matter if it is owned, ordered or wishlist. There are a few profiles in my wishlist, and even they are part of the update process.
This way I'd like to say that for the program it doesn't matter where the cast & crew is to find in a profile. As soon as they are anywhere without a BY, they became part of the ACTORS/CREW files.
Not sure if this thought could be integrated in THIS tool or needs another one: You remember a few posts before I had the death date issue. Well, there's the same one with birthyears: I found actors with a BY listed in movies which were produced several years before they were born. But I think this check might need another tool, as I got no logically idea how this issue has any connection to the problem I started this thread for.
Not importand but anyhow confusing and funny: To find out if the actors listed in the profiles are the ones with the right BY, I have to check a lot at the IMDB. And today I reached an actress, allready passed away in 1998, and they list several movies "in planning" up to 2026. I can't imagine that she has been kind of mummified and now only plays dead corpse. | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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I used to but only for main people. There is a Kevin Smith that used to play Ares on Xena: Warrior Princess and then there is the Jersey guy. But not for any random John Smith I have never heard of and will never look up anyway.
Well, as long as they are the ones with accepted/released Birthyears I think that's neccessary. Or what do we have the BYs for, if nobody cares about their use? | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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| Does this mean you don't cere if the data in your collection is correct? That's a shock! | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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If you would like to enhance your "imagination" how much profiles have to be corrected because of wronlgy used birthyears, just check all your profiles with any "version of "John Moore".
I'd like to say that I had to correct about 70 % of them (most times wrongly used the 1966 insted of the 1968 one). | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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Quoting ninso4:
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Quoting _ppj_:
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Michael Cunningham BY 1952 approved
Writer/Producer/Uncredited Cast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cunningham https://www.randomhouse.de/Autor/Michael_Cunningham/p53937.rhd http://www.michaelcunninghamwriter.com/books
Michael Cunningham BY ?
cast Die Hard 2, State of Grace, The Brave One
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0192399/?ref_=fn_al_nm_2
only in "The Brave One" is he credited as Mick Cunningham
Michael Cunningham - BY= 1944
actor in Vice Academy Part 2, etc.
imdb
Michael Cunningham BY ?
cast Die Hard 2, State of Grace, The Brave One
is credited as Mick Cunningham in The Irish Man & The Brave One. I'd like to say that this causes a Common Name Thread but imo using "Mick Cunningham" as common name is much easier than having another Michael w/o BY | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting The Movieman:
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Jim Cummings (1952)
Voice Actor
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0191906/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings
Jim Cummings (????)
Actor, Writer, Director
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3526993/
Rob Marshall (1960)
Director, Producer
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0551128/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Marshall
Rob Marshall (????)
Sound Editor
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4429873/
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3526993/ is born in 1986
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cummings_(Regisseur) | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Quoting Magmadrag:
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Not sure if I should post this here or create a new thread as this could be a new tool - if even possible.
The difficulty for the possibiliy is that we don't list the death dates anywhere. If available, Luigi lists them, but if not.....
And I got to this as I had to find out that "Peter Cook (1937 - 1995)" is credited in several profiles as an actor after his death (e. g. "Terra Nova")
So if we would have any list of death dates a tool would be interesting to check out cast & crew, if they are credited after their death. That's only possible for "archive footage". The only chance to question if the credits could be correct is "Production Year - 90 > Birthyear".
It's only a thought (for a future far far away^^) but another way to find out probably wrongly used cast & crew
Second recognition about this: Sometimes it's funny - because it can't be real - to have an actor, BY 1950+ credited in a movie before his birth. Another fact to be checked.... manually work is horrible. When I am done tonight, the BY-list is done for actors up to letter C - and I'd like to say that I had to change/correct more than 100 profiles.... | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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Quoting Scooter1836:
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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George Cooper
1892-1943
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178049/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cooper_%28actor%29
Actor
BY=?
Dallas
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178052/
Profile Contribution Approved Sep 18 2012 1:33PM
Well I found a new one
George Cooper 1904 - 1995 Sound Department
The Big Heat, Bridman of Alkatraz, The Wild One and many others
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178050/
http://www.fandango.com/georgecooper/overview/p217249
Status: Approved Jun 20 2013
The Dallas-Actor got an update and has now BY 1920 listed
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178052/?ref_=tt_cl_t_11 | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |
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Not sure if I should post this here or create a new thread as this could be a new tool - if even possible.
The difficulty for the possibiliy is that we don't list the death dates anywhere. If available, Luigi lists them, but if not.....
And I got to this as I had to find out that "Peter Cook (1937 - 1995)" is credited in several profiles as an actor after his death (e. g. "Terra Nova")
So if we would have any list of death dates a tool would be interesting to check out cast & crew, if they are credited after their death. That's only possible for "archive footage". The only chance to question if the credits could be correct is "Production Year - 90 > Birthyear".
It's only a thought (for a future far far away^^) but another way to find out probably wrongly used cast & crew | Posted: Topic Replies: 168, Topic Views: 9954 |
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Quoting Muckl:
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Michael Collins (1930) - NASA astronaut (In the Shadow of the Moon, ...)
http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm0172531/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_(astronaut)
Approved May 4th
Michael Collins (1921) - English actor (007 - Goldfinger, The Adventures of Robin Hood #2.14, ...)
http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm0172532/
Couldn't find any other source, but BY is already in the Invelos database.
Well, quite often imdb is not the best source, but as long as wikipedia says the same, I'd prefer to change "Michael Collins (1921)" to "Michael Collins (1922)"
source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Collins_(English_actor) | Posted: Topic Replies: 5751, Topic Views: 373359 |