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Box Sets and Genres
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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Quoting Darxon:
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IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • Title,

  • Edition,

  • CoO,

  • Production year,

  • Rating,

  • Region,

  • combined running time,

  • Release Date,

  • Case type,

  • SRP,

  • distribution studio,

  • any features exclusive to the box set (figurines, money clips, gadgets, booklets) and of course,

  • UPC and locality


  • Let's see.  CoO has already been mentioned as possibly not being consistent across the contents.  Production Year is almost guarenteed to be different.  Rating can be different and there are many examples to back that up.  I've seen the region be different.  I've seen the Case Type be different (My Warner Legends Collection has three digipaks and a snapper).
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    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    Let's see.  CoO has already been mentioned as possibly not being consistent across the contents.  Production Year is almost guarenteed to be different.  Rating can be different and there are many examples to back that up.  I've seen the region be different. I've seen the Case Type be different (My Warner Legends Collection has three digipaks and a snapper).


    Case Type should be what the set came in so it should be included. 
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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    Case Type should be what the set came in so it should be included. 


    Sorry, I didn't realize stupid ideas weren't allowed.  I withdraw my incredibly boneheaded comment.    
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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    Case Type should be what the set came in so it should be included. 


    Sorry, I didn't realize stupid ideas weren't allowed.  I withdraw my incredibly boneheaded comment.    


    Weren't allowed? I thought they were mandatory! 
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    Case Type should be what the set came in so it should be included. 


    Sorry, I didn't realize stupid ideas weren't allowed.  I withdraw my incredibly boneheaded comment.    


    Stupid ideas are allways allowed...as long as we can all point and laugh. 
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I am developing a tic.          

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    Billy Video
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    Quoting Mark Harrison:
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    Let's see.  CoO has already been mentioned as possibly not being consistent across the contents.  Production Year is almost guarenteed to be different.  Rating can be different and there are many examples to back that up.  I've seen the region be different.  I've seen the Case Type be different (My Warner Legends Collection has three digipaks and a snapper).

    Oops, I missed the production year in my earlier post...

    But I think we already have a rule for Rating and should keep it; so I think it should be in there.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsynnerman
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    Quoting Darxon:
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    IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • Title,

  • Edition,

  • CoO,

  • Production year,

  • Rating,

  • Region,

  • combined running time,

  • Release Date,

  • Case type,

  • SRP,

  • distribution studio,

  • any features exclusive to the box set (figurines, money clips, gadgets, booklets) and of course,

  • UPC and locality


  • Agreed, with the exception of CoO and Rating (since it can vary from film to film).
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    Agreed, with the exception of CoO and Rating (since it can vary from film to film).

    The rating is sometimes (e.g. in the UK and Germany) given for the complete box set and controlled by the law. In those countries the rating has to be printed on the cover and is valid for the complete box.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    Quoting Darxon:
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    [...] IMO, the only data that should be in a Box Set parent profile is:

  • [...]


  • The overview as printed outside of the box set should also be part of the parent profile.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I agree with that, Rho, when there is one.

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    Billy Video
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    I agree with that, Rho, when there is one.

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    ...and if there is none, we already have a rule in place for that too; use a simple listing of the titles contained in the set.
    Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDaddy DVD
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    How would you handle sets that contain movies that share some genres?

    There are 3 logical ways to handle the genre(s) of a parent profiles:

  • You leave the field empty for every parent.

  • You list the superset of genres similar to the sum of the run time.

  • You list the smallest common denominator, meaning that you list those genres which are valid for all children.

  • I would vote for the 3rd option. A similar approach is possible for every other field in the parent profile.

    I would vote for the 3rd option for genres as well, because IMO if we go down the road of removing every feature that does not cover all the childs there would not be much left. But I would like the Video Formats, Theatrical Release Studio and Production Studio to be added to the not include list since these are almost never the same for every child.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
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    We can't even add Genres reliably for a single profile.  This is the field that causes the most confusion and multiple contributions.  In fact, we even have a special rule about submitting profiles with genre changes.

    So I'm shocked people would even consider compounding that problem by wanting to add genres to boxsets.  A box doesn't have a genre.  It's nothing more than a container.  I say leave them out.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I have the answer, Ken needs to add a new Genre, Box. Simple.                  

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    Billy Video
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