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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.
John

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I don't watch the movie, on my computer, but I do watch each and every credit for each and every film.

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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


This certainly is an option but it is not the only option.  The rules say you can use another source but do not specify what that source should be.  That is all I am saying.
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That would be assuming the caption typist is correct, I wish I had a nickel for every error i have seen in either Open or Closed Captioning.

And the captioning typist is not part of the Production Team as well, the Credits were used for a reason.

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Billy Video
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the credits of recent is called billing and it basically for pay scale meaning the actors and crew get a certain fee is they are billed on the credits , and many a credit has been wrong in the past, agreed its the best sourse but nothing is 100%
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not asying everyone should do this but I certainly can list full names of the characters of my favorite films and list the time on the dvd when it is stated, again just another source, oh most films use a FINAL shooting script for subtitles on the domestic films if in doubt can ask my friend who is a screenwriter
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No Tom, stay with the Credits.

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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.


I don't believe it.

Now what?
Hal
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


I've done that before when trying to figure out a role name for a character when one wasn't provided.
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Hal:

Stop being such a nice person. That was totally unnecessary.

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*EDITED* - Ken
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.



I don't believe it either. When do the goons arrive?
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.


I don't believe it.

Now what?


Actually, I do it this way.  But, to be fair, I only audit a profile immediately after watching the DVD so I know which actors I need to find role names for and where, in the film, to find them.  Most recently I did this with Owen Wilson and Night at the Museum.  He was uncredited so I had to go back to the film and find his character's name.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.


I don't believe it.

Now what?


Actually, I do it this way.  But, to be fair, I only audit a profile immediately after watching the DVD so I know which actors I need to find role names for and where, in the film, to find them.  Most recently I did this with Owen Wilson and Night at the Museum.  He was uncredited so I had to go back to the film and find his character's name.



Well, then you don't do it that way since you cited a specific difference.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Rifter:
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.


I don't believe it.

Now what?


You continue to prove what a nice person you are.

*EDITED* - Ken
John

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Make America Great Again!
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Quoting EPKJ:
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Quoting Tomricci:
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Unless I missed it why couldn't you just watch the movie or tv show with the subttiles and take the characters name right from the movie, I find that to be the most accurate and the film maker is the one who gave the info!


First of all, subtitles are not added by the "filmmaker, but by the distributor.

Secondly, it is possible that the character may be referred to several different ways throughout the movie, so which do you use; or may not be "named" until the end of the movie.

Are you seriously suggesting that people should should watch every movie from beginning to end in order to do the cast list? 

No matter what anyone says, I do not believe anyone is doing this!


I do it.  Regularly.  I'd also be careful about suggesting I'm not telling the truth.


I don't believe it.

Now what?


Actually, I do it this way.  But, to be fair, I only audit a profile immediately after watching the DVD so I know which actors I need to find role names for and where, in the film, to find them.  Most recently I did this with Owen Wilson and Night at the Museum.  He was uncredited so I had to go back to the film and find his character's name.



Well, then you don't do it that way since you cited a specific difference.


What? 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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I believe he is saying that you don't run the movie from beginning to end and capture the role names that are missing from the credits as the movie is playing, all the way through.

That is what Rifter claims he does.
Hal
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