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Kahless:

Has the Klingon Empire been assimilated?

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never ever     

HAND! (Have A Nice Day!)

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The Rules are to be followed by ALL Regions, if I should happen to buy a disc from your area I would expect that the Online should resemble ANY other Contribution.We know that there are some local issues, but there is no reason for any major departure from the Rules.

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skip: you are very accurate with your argument! But don't you think that contributing is a good cause and that we should not behave as a functionary? 

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The central point is valid: it's just not worth the hassle to bother contributing.  So people just leech until the devotees eventually get sick of everyone else leeching and they stop too.

Good point - we all have to keep this in perspective and remember that this is supposed to be a hobby! Too many or too strict rules could end up putting a lot of people off contributing.

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...... If I can't find the time to do it, I won't.

Thanks for your very precise answer. In fact, I perfectly know all what you wrote.

What I mean, is that those demanding rules will drive a lot of people not to contribute anymore (I know at least  one person). And for countries where very few people contribute, where the problems of frequent changes for details don't exist, the result will be a poor database, and then less people interested to buy the product...

I don't think there are any fewer contributors in any real sense.  I continually see new names in the voting screens and on contributions, and my collection isn't that big.  Perhaps if you perceive that number going down, its because the titles you have are much less mainstream than most users in your region are buying.  You only see changes or new profiles for titles in YOUR database after all.

I also don't think the rules are driving anybody off.  If new users aren't willing to learn the rules in order to make correct contributions, what kind of database do you suppose we would have if the rules were LESS stringent?

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some closed-minded and nitpicking rules will definitely have the effect that possible precious contributors will be scared and stop contributing. We should be aware that we don't have to decide how to reduce the global warming of our planet - we 're talking about dvd's!...

But on the other hand, tight rules may also attact contributors because they know that their work will not be replaced within minutes by someone who see things differently.

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your argument is comprehensible. So what about establishing different stages of contributing options:

Maybe it sounds nuts , but we could depend the ability of contributions addicted by points:

complete contribution including scans, synopsis, cast/crew 100 pts
adding cast/crew 50 pts
adding coverscans 25 pts
adding CoO 1 pts
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So contributing shall cost points and noodge is only possible when contributing by oneself   

Grins or not, that is the most cockamamy thing I've heard in a very long time, even in this venue! 

John, this is the second thing today where we are both on the same side of something!  

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There is very little in the rules that is hard to follow, and any part that you don't want to do you can skip!

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Granted, but everyone interprets the rules differently and thus is where the problems come from.

Some things are worded too vaguely and allow to much room for interpretation. Some things are too confusing and are difficult to follow for some.

In the credits area, I find the Sound crew to be very confusing and I simply don't even touch that area often.

Now the use of common names or credited as is causing confusion and heated arguements which some could be due to how the rules are worded.

Sure some of us are film buffs, but also some here are just casual fans who collect DVDs. Perhaps the Rules could have a Glossary to help define specific words that are used in the rules and could help solve the confusion about certain aspects of the rules.

One of the things discussed when we first began talking about writing the "Rules" was the fact that we would see fewer contributions due to some feeling that the "rules" were too complicated or they disagreed or some other issue. Not to sound callous but some of those who have stopped contributing needed to stop.

At this point we are seeing a few "good" contributors who are no longer contributing (people like me for instance) but typically, they (we) are no longer contributing due to other reasons and those reasons are not due to the "rules."

I feel that the rules have increased the quality of the contributions exponentially and has resulted in a greatly improved data base.


At this point, I would say that the arguments in the forum and the over-all negative tone is what is causing the "good" contributors to participate less.

The nice thing is, you can have the information any way you want in your local db.  For contributions, you must follow the rules.

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The nice thing is, you can have the information any way you want in your local db. 

The bad thing is that you'll have to make your local db from nothing, if nobody have contributed before...

And about "good  contributors", for me they are probably not those that follow rules without any judgement, but people who are sufficiently intelligent to see that on a certain point, 95% of the users will change a "conform to the rule" data for their own db, and so change it immediately.