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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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Well someone has definably taken a dislike to my scans

It Came From Beneath The Sea [5-035822-173132]
Forbidden Planet: 50th Anniversary Two-Disc Special Ed [7-321900-669122]

Both declined with all Yes votes


Maybe they all end up looking like your avatar  


I don't get it     
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Well someone has definably taken a dislike to my scans

It Came From Beneath The Sea [5-035822-173132]
Forbidden Planet: 50th Anniversary Two-Disc Special Ed [7-321900-669122]

Both declined with all Yes votes

The Forbidden Planet cover looked far too yellow, and I dont remember on the other one. Remember, that just having Yes votes, doesn't guarantee that it will be accepted. There are people who vote yes when it is the wrong UPC on a scan or has a watermark or is visibly smaller than the one that is already there.

-Gerri
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Maybe they all end up looking like your avatar  


I don't get it     


What I was trying to say is that you may think they look absolutely wonderful on your monitor when you contribute them but when other users view them on totally different monitors and setups that's when things get interesting. You may think you contributed this



but what some voters and the screeners see is this

 
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Well someone has definably taken a dislike to my scans

It Came From Beneath The Sea [5-035822-173132]
Forbidden Planet: 50th Anniversary Two-Disc Special Ed [7-321900-669122]

Both declined with all Yes votes

The Forbidden Planet cover looked far too yellow, and I dont remember on the other one. Remember, that just having Yes votes, doesn't guarantee that it will be accepted. There are people who vote yes when it is the wrong UPC on a scan or has a watermark or is visibly smaller than the one that is already there.

-Gerri



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Well someone has definably taken a dislike to my scans

It Came From Beneath The Sea [5-035822-173132]
Forbidden Planet: 50th Anniversary Two-Disc Special Ed [7-321900-669122]

Both declined with all Yes votes

The Forbidden Planet cover looked far too yellow, and I dont remember on the other one. Remember, that just having Yes votes, doesn't guarantee that it will be accepted. There are people who vote yes when it is the wrong UPC on a scan or has a watermark or is visibly smaller than the one that is already there.

-Gerri

Funny that because someone had complained that it was to yellow and i had rescanned it reducing the yellow level to has low as i could get it making the cover i thought looking more blue than yellow but i guess it must come down to the individual looking at it which means of coarse that we have to produce scans to please the screeners not the other profilers.
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Get over it, I would love it if there was a a way to develop consistent objective judging, but it can't be done. Cover images are going to be completely subjective, I have had the same thing happen, several times on Covers where everybody said yes, but Gerri said NO. Guess what, Gerri and Ken's opinion in the end are the ONLY opinions that count, if they don't like it...fine I still have my Cover scans and so do you..

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There are people who vote yes when it is the wrong UPC on a scan or has a watermark or is visibly smaller than the one that is already there.

-Gerri


Speaking of this, and not just with covers, but for other blatantly wrong profile changes there are some particular users that just seem to click YES on everything that comes through.  Should there not be any kind of repercussion for this?  A warning and a suspension of voting proviledges and all that?  Something to get their attention that perhaps they need to actually look at what they're voting for.
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Maybe they all end up looking like your avatar  


I don't get it     


What I was trying to say is that you may think they look absolutely wonderful on your monitor when you contribute them but when other users view them on totally different monitors and setups that's when things get interesting. You may think you contributed this



Bathing suit too pink......

In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

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Get over it, I would love it if there was a a way to develop consistent objective judging, but it can't be done. Cover images are going to be completely subjective, I have had the same thing happen, several times on Covers where everybody said yes, but Gerri said NO. Guess what, Gerri and Ken's opinion in the end are the ONLY opinions that count, if they don't like it...fine I still have my Cover scans and so do you..

Skip

Skip what I'm trying to get at here is why?. Why where the 160 odd scans i did before OK but suddenly there not what am i doing wrong? What do i need to change? what am i doing differently what do i need to do to make the scans acceptable to the screeners. maybe the screeners can post there cover scan personal preferences so we know what to do.
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Speaking of this, and not just with covers, but for other blatantly wrong profile changes there are some particular users that just seem to click YES on everything that comes through.  Should there not be any kind of repercussion for this?  A warning and a suspension of voting proviledges and all that?  Something to get their attention that perhaps they need to actually look at what they're voting for.

Any idea how to achieve that....? How do you encourage people to look at the data and not fly right over to the Yes button? How do you know they didn't?
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Speaking of this, and not just with covers, but for other blatantly wrong profile changes there are some particular users that just seem to click YES on everything that comes through.  Should there not be any kind of repercussion for this?  A warning and a suspension of voting proviledges and all that?  Something to get their attention that perhaps they need to actually look at what they're voting for.

Any idea how to achieve that....? How do you encourage people to look at the data and not fly right over to the Yes button? How do you know they didn't?


Well, that's why I said it could only be done for the blatantly obvious wrong contributions that pop up occasionally.  Things where someone is trying to add 3 cast credits to an empty boxset parent profile and site the front cover as the source (don't laugh, there's one out there right now with 27 No, 2 Yes votes).  There's others I've seen over the last few weeks but can't remember the exact examples.  As for whether they looked at what they are voting for.. if they did, then it's even worse because looked at it and think it's an okay contribution.  That right there says they should not be participating in the voting process.
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The "significant improvement" requirement is applied after the votes are considered, and can result in declines of contributions that otherwise would be accepted based on votes and other factors.
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Speaking of this, and not just with covers, but for other blatantly wrong profile changes there are some particular users that just seem to click YES on everything that comes through.  Should there not be any kind of repercussion for this?  A warning and a suspension of voting proviledges and all that?  Something to get their attention that perhaps they need to actually look at what they're voting for.

Any idea how to achieve that....? How do you encourage people to look at the data and not fly right over to the Yes button? How do you know they didn't?


Well, that's why I said it could only be done for the blatantly obvious wrong contributions that pop up occasionally.  Things where someone is trying to add 3 cast credits to an empty boxset parent profile and site the front cover as the source (don't laugh, there's one out there right now with 27 No, 2 Yes votes).  There's others I've seen over the last few weeks but can't remember the exact examples.  As for whether they looked at what they are voting for.. if they did, then it's even worse because looked at it and think it's an okay contribution.  That right there says they should not be participating in the voting process.


Bet ya $1,000,000,000 that one of the voter's names begins with a "T" .
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3 times I have subitted the following UPC 5050582-001655 - UK Version (as a new contribution) stating where the information had come from (all from the DVD except the release date which I found from websites NOT IMDb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

Each time it was declined with the same message (not sure of the message now though).
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3 times I have subitted the following UPC 5050582-001655 - UK Version (as a new contribution) stating where the information had come from (all from the DVD except the release date which I found from websites NOT IMDb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

Each time it was declined with the same message (not sure of the message now though).


The message is just the standard "contribution declined" message with no further clues.
I'm guessing there must be something wrong with the profile, as I've never heard of a profile being mistakenly rejected three times! Double check that the UPC code is correct and matches what is on the cover scans. Also check that the locality matches the DVD.
You could also try submitting only a basic new contribution (title & scans only) first just to get it into the system before adding all the other info.
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The decline message provided for your contribution is as follows:

The contribution notes indicated a valid source for the changes, but the contents of the changes appear to come from an invalid source. If the source is valid, recontribute with an extended note. If not, please do not contribute the data that comes from an invalid source, such as a third party database.

In this particular case, you have specified the source of the cast and crew as the film credits, yet have included uncredited cast.
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