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Slip cases and slip covers with images
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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I apologize for trying to add some humor to my posts.

Your flame baiting, however, won't work.
Achim [Ya-Shin//Nuo]
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpaceFreakMicha
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@skipnet50: Please stop to just insult users. You like hitting others with the bat called "Ken's Rules", so face it that others can use this bat, too.

And to the case type discussion: It's nice to make SUGGESTIONS, but Ken clearly defined the current RULES. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Flame baiting, humor, hardly on either count. I am calling it like I see it, Achim. You drove it into the ground, amigo. I recognoiize that there is a method to the madness, i want to try and comprehend the what that method is, I am comfortable with whatever direction I ultimately take. If you want to try and help me comprehend whatever the method is, you are more than welcome. I have said many time that if you lock two programmers up and give them a problem they are as like as not to come up with different answers. That is what we have here and I simply want to understand Ken's answer, it is possible he is thinking of something I haven't and vice versa. I see a serious inconsistency which I believe will bring us nothing but more confusion, and hopefully I can sort that out. That is all. Nothing more, nothing less. And what my ultimate answer will be here...at the moment i have not the foggiest idea nor am I overly concerned about it one way or the other. At this particular juncture, I am not comfortable Contributing some case data or voting on it and I would like to be able to change that..we'll see.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Space:

If I felt that Ken had CLEARLY defined the Rules, I wouldn't be asking. You don't want to put yourself in the middle.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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Quoting skipnet50:
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If I felt that Ken had CLEARLY defined the Rules, I wouldn't be asking. You don't want to put yourself in the middle.

You might want to remeber that next time, before you say that the Rules are all very clear to you and you wonder why anyone could possibly have any question


I'll skip over the other post, as we are already back to normal in PM...
Achim [Ya-Shin//Nuo]
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The inconsitency Skip claims stems from his choice of the angle he views this "problem" from.

While Skip looks at the outer sleeve and tries to establish differences in the appearance of this sleeve to justify the use of the two different terms, for Ken the deciding focus rests with the content contained in said sleeves to determine which term to use.

In a nutshell, if Skip can bring himself to shift his focus to that which Ken uses, he won't see any inconsistency any more.

I'm really curious if this concept will be understandable....
Lutz
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Darxon has it right - Ken has decided that the contents dictate how we treat the cover, not the other way round.

And please take your bickering elsewhere - I don't want this thread locked.
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Quoting Darxon:
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In a nutshell, if Skip can bring himself to shift his focus to that which Ken uses, he won't see any inconsistancy any more.


Well spoken! 
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Quoting skipnet50:
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If I felt that Ken had CLEARLY defined the Rules, I wouldn't be asking. You don't want to put yourself in the middle.

Skip


The problem is that some people -- most people -- are using slip case and slip cover interchangeably.  They aren't the same.  They also seem to think that a multidisc digipak only counts as a single unit.  Ken's latest attempt at a definition only exascerbated the situation.  When we've got pictures of the damn things, I can't understand how anybody can get it wrong, but they do.  Chalk it up to mass stupidity or mass hysteria or something.
John

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I would suggest that some people here take a pair of scissors, take all their slipcases and cut out the side opposite to the opening. Then they can stop whining that that slipcover flag is incorrect for their slipcases. 
I mean, the terms slipcase and slipcover were introduced some time in the past by god knows who. What's the problem if now the slipcover flag is used for whatever cover slips over the case, whether that be with one, two or three openings... It's not like there's a law that says that slipcover means 1 opening and slipcase means two.
I'm sometimes amazed by the lack of pragma of some people.
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They also seem to think that a multidisc digipak only counts as a single unit.


According to Ken, it does only count as one unit.
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The problem is that some people -- most people -- are using slip case and slip cover interchangeably.  They aren't the same. 


And by what means are YOU the superior authority in questions regarding the differences between those two? How come YOUR interpretation on the meaning of the terms has more merit and weight than the definition set up by Ken? Like it has been said by you several times in the past (and rightfully so):

"Such are the rules and their interpretation and intent as defined by Ken, Don't like it - fine. Keep it local because for the online, only Ken has the final word and must be obeyed." (not a verbatim quote)

Btw, YOU is meant as plural and refers to those claiming inconsitency after Ken's latest statements...
Lutz
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Darxon:

You are correct and distilled it quite nicely and i am trying to understand the angle Ken is using. I have said that if you lock two programmers in a room with a problem they will come up with different approaches to the same problem. It doesn't mean either is wrong per se, it means they are different perceptions of the solution. At the moment my perception is different and I am trying to understand this one.

Skip
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I had exactly the same problem Skip. When I first set up this thread I had it set up in a completely different way (as you may be able to tell from the quotes in the subsequent posts). It took me a while to get my head round what Ken intended.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Thanks for that north, that is more helpful than you know.

Skip
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Skip:

Glad I could enlighten you, and I don't mean this in any way to be cynical, sarcastic or ironic.
Lutz
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