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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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He has edited his post. To make it less offensive, James


He edited it the same minute he posted it... 2 HOURS before your post.
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.
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For the moderator, I see no evidence of anything but a double standard here. You remove a post of one user while leaving even more offensive and insulting posts up by other users. Now i can explain why that's true and it is an example of exactly what is wrong with the moderation system here.       Come on Moderator, fairness is not part of this system is it, if users vote each other greens (which they do) while ganging up with reds on another user; that is something you will respond to, isn't it.

Engage me if you dare, moderator, this system works so well that contemptible behavior can actually be awarded stars by playing bangarang.
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.


And again I ask, what about completely and intentionally derailing a thread here.

Is that okay?
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.

Personally I would love it if you started including denigration of motives as something to moderate, as those kinds of attacks are far more likely to derail threads and discussions than old-fashioned name calling is.
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I must call you or this one. You have stated a blatant falsehood. Kathy made no such comment, she merely said she was taking a break for awhile. That is your own conclusion and interpretation, please don't leie or be disingenuous.

He wasn't talking about Kathy's post.  He was talking about a post another user made in that thread.
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.

Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.
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Quoting northbloke:
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Personally I would love it if you started including denigration of motives as something to moderate, as those kinds of attacks are far more likely to derail threads and discussions than old-fashioned name calling is.

Gotta agree with this.

Quoting m.cellophane:
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Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.

And this.  @ the Mods, you have created a line between two things that are exactly the same.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Don't  get me started , james you live in a glass house.
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.

Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.

I just got a "you did this in 2007" so an attack in 2010 is warranted. 
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Personally I would love it if you started including denigration of motives as something to moderate, as those kinds of attacks are far more likely to derail threads and discussions than old-fashioned name calling is.

Gotta agree with this.

That

Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.

And this.  @ the Mods, you have created a line between two things that are exactly the same.

And that as well
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Moderator:

You know what is truly pathetic. I have been trying to find a way we can fix this problem, for my trouble i have been repeatedly attacked and demeaned. There are those here who are clearly so invested in their hatred that all they want is blood. And yet you do NOTHING, you moderate the post of one user, while ignoring utterly disgusting and inflammatory attacks by others.     NO, there is no fairness in this system, double standards all over the place.
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Quoting lyonsden5:
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.

Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.

I just got a "you did this in 2007" so an attack in 2010 is warranted. 

Rick:

It's just a follow on to your completely unacceptable behavior.
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Quoting m.cellophane:
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Quoting Forum Moderator:
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We've been going by the guideline that name calling is an attack, whereas denigration of motive is not.

So, "You're an idiot" has been editable, whereas "You're always causing trouble" has not.

This is a subjective line is going to move as needed. Be polite and you're in no danger of an edit due to personal attack.  Be impolite and risk an edit, even if in the past we've been more allowing.

Both types cause flame wars. "You're always causing trouble" leads to "Nuh-uh, you've been causing trouble longer than I have. Remember back in 2004...." I do hope you will decrease your tolerance for personal attacks.




It's well past the time for baby steps, which is exactly what this seems to be.

I'm sorry, I'm pissed. I'm angry that yet another member left (albeit for an indeterminate time) because of this crap and the very same garbage starts in that thread, and you guys do nothing about it.

Well, I guess since there was no actual name calling, completely going off topic with the purpose of starting an argument is a-okay.
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Quoting samuelrichardscott:
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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He has edited his post. To make it less offensive, James


He edited it the same minute he posted it... 2 HOURS before your post.
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