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This Year's Update?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheDarkKnight
Registered: March 14, 2007
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I'm afraid this program is moving closer and closer to life support as time goes on. 


I feel the same way. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
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just mentioned future update he would like to squash a bug in 11 days ago

fear not... this program does not need constant updates like some hot phone app, it's library software. servers are on and working, and an update is coming... no matter how slow.
-JoN
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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While I am happy to see an update "announced" (well, I guess mentioned is more like it), I must admit I was slightly disappointed to see it called 3.9.5 rather than 4.0.

Still, it will probably bring some important/needed amendments (like the addition for 4K discs) and is very welcome...
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
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While I am happy to see an update "announced" (well, I guess mentioned is more like it), I must admit I was slightly disappointed to see it called 3.9.5 rather than 4.0.

Still, it will probably bring some important/needed amendments (like the addition for 4K discs) and is very welcome...


I doubt you will ever see a 4.0... if you look at the difference between 2.x and 3.x it is massive, i know that some companies like Mozilla and Google are pushing x.0 versions monthly on some software, but Ken is old school. a 4.0 release would be a massive change and i don't think there is enough financial incentive to do such a large update.

While i think Ken is still tweaking and adding small features, full development is over as unfortunately the physical media business is declining and as it declined the number of users with collections large enough and interest large enough to use this software is also declining.

At the end of the day it's library software, it just needs to work... and DVDP does.
-JoN
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnuoyaxin
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I doubt you will ever see a 4.0... if you look at the difference between 2.x and 3.x it is massive, i know that some companies like Mozilla and Google are pushing x.0 versions monthly on some software, but Ken is old school. a 4.0 release would be a massive change and i don't think there is enough financial incentive to do such a large update.


I mostly agree with you on this. I think a big enough difference would be the change of the "credited as" a system, possibly going to a system where different releases of the same movie share the cast list. This kind of change was hinted at in the past, but whether there is, as you say, still enough incentive to actually do this remains to be seen.

Maybe if he were to decide that upgrading to 4.0 requires the purchase of another license, it could work out, but he may need to consider how many users would be alienated by such a move versus those who would pitch in happily.

After all these years there still seems to be no other software on the market of similar quality for DVD collecting (I have not investigated in a while though).
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Frankly, Ken got the program pretty much right. The main issues as I see it remaining are in the Contribution Guidelines/Rules. I'm having trouble envisioning any major program changes that would provide additional utility. This isn't rocket science. I don't know that we need a 4.0.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
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I doubt you will ever see a 4.0...  and i don't think there is enough financial incentive to do such a large update.

This is the major question: Either there is a business model built, which allows improvement, or the current business dies. If there is no improvement, the current user base drops off one by one (many of the power users are already gone), and no new users jump in and generate a revenue.

There is massive potential of improvement:
• The database design has to be changes, to reflect the need for a working linking system (not only the linking of persons, also the title-profile scheme does not work out)
• We need new media types and even medialess collections will get more important - therefore we need connection to media services on the web...
• We need better moderation of the forum - especially the rule setting needs vast improvement

And these are only the points itching the most...

Only promising a v4.0 to sell new licenses will not cope with the current situation. This will only split up the current user base. And this split alone could deal the deathblow to the whole product.

On the other hand, running the data base and the forum costs money!

Out of this, I can only see a type of monthly/yearly fee for improvement, providing the database and moderating the forum. But out of the current mess, it won't be an easy job to convince the current user base to convert their licenses...

... since Darwin we know: Improve or die.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantFloorwalker
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What amount would be an acceptable yearly fee?  Assuming there's a little more development ?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
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From my point of view little more development would not encourage me to throw in any money - and most of the times I see it like this, money is money, regardless if it is one Euor/Dollar/... or 100 - I won't pay for a slower death...

If there is significant improvement - not only in the program code - I for my part would not hesitate to throw in one or two Euros a month. But this is a matter of personal preference.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantLowpro
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To each his own naturally, but I'd be completely content creating local profiles every time I purchase a new DVD or Blu-ray if my only other choice was to pay a subscription fee per access to the online database and software updates.  Ultimately I don't need the online database and if accessing it were a requirement I wouldn't be using this software anyway.  Live by the cloud, die by the cloud.  No thanks!  I also don't need this product to whistle dixie for me.  I'm satisfied with what both DVD Profiler and the mobile apps currently do for me.  Now if for some reason I found I needed a software update due to running a newer version of Windows or mobile operating system, in that case I'd be more than willing to pay for a software update if needed, irrespective of the fact I have a lifetime license.
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to whistle dixie for me


That's what Youtube is for.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorAiAustria
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To each his own naturally, but I'd be completely content creating local profiles every time I purchase a new DVD or Blu-ray if my only other choice was to pay a subscription fee per access to the online database and software updates.

Agreed. The quarreling in the forum and more than imperfect profiles in a badly maintained online database won't justify paying anything.
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Ultimately I don't need the online database and if accessing it were a requirement I wouldn't be using this software anyway.  Live by the cloud, die by the cloud. No thanks!

I refuse the current enforcement of Adobe, Microsoft and affiliates onto the monthly fees for simply using a software too.
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I also don't need this product to whistle dixie for me.  I'm satisfied with what both DVD Profiler and the mobile apps currently do for me.

Mobile Sync and Backup work with a cloud server...
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Now if for some reason I found I needed a software update due to running a newer version of Windows or mobile operating system, in that case I'd be more than willing to pay for a software update if needed, irrespective of the fact I have a lifetime license.

It would breach the lifetime license, if you should pay for upgrade versions. They were specifically promised when purchasing the license.

Just to clarify: I'm willing to pay for additional services - which we desperatly need IMHO. But I won't even think about paying for more of the same, more of what I already paid for. ... and I won't discuss about cloud issues in an American forum - this would be ridiculous.
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Ultimately I don't need the online database

Especially not since AiAustria propagated that uncredited local post post production people should be added to the Cast. It's people like him who ruin the database.
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I hope you all have seen Ken's recent post.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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Quoting AiAustria:
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• We need new media types and even medialess collections will get more important - therefore we need connection to media services on the web...


Based on changing technology and past requests, being able to catalog online (digital) collections has the potential to pull in additional customers.

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I hope you all have seen Ken's recent post.


Maybe Ken has upgraded to a newer version of Delphi for the next version of DVDP.
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