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As told in a story elsewhere, I wound up with two copies of: X-Men Apocalypse: 024543-226581, Disc 1, BD Main Feature.

One copy is in my Sony CX7000ES which is directly connected to my LG 4K TV.

The other copy I put into my iVid BD player with 4K upscale. It is pass-thru connected (av Receiver off) to my TV, in a different HDMI slot.

After adjusting the picture parameters to be "identical" on the two HDMI ports, and then freeze-framing both discs at "exactly" the same spot, I did a click compare, back and forth.

Upshot: yes, I could see a difference, albeit subtle. The 4K upscale process provided clear improvements in definition. I stared at length at more pimples, hair strands, clothing lint and eyebrows than I want to ever again!    But I could see it. In one shot of the airplane hanger, there were some PCs in the distance, with some text displayed. At that distance, of course you can't make out the text, but I believe that in the 4K upscale version, the mere fact that there were distinct lines of text, was more apparent, at a distance. In the non-scaled version, the lines of text was a bit more like a rectangular blob. But then, maybe I was seeing what I wanted to see ...

I tried to take a couple of snaps with my cellphone, but I'm not sure the results are conclusive when you view it in that way.

Here they are; can you tell?
Picture A

Picture B
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Here they are; can you tell?

Looks like VHS.
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Hard to tell - the phone camera, with all its moiré effects and what have you, just isn't good enough for this.

BTW both images are upscaled to 4K, in one case by your iVid, in the other by your TV.
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Hard to tell - the phone camera, with all its moiré effects and what have you, just isn't good enough for this.

BTW both images are upscaled to 4K, in one case by your iVid, in the other by your TV.

Good point. But that was my original question - whether pre-upscaling before sending to the TV made a difference. I think it does in my case, but as has been noted, it is hard (impossible?) to tell from the cellphone pictures.
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Here they are; can you tell?

Looks like VHS.

Well, I meant discounting the obvious issues created by taking a cellphone picture, Kind of like when NASA decodes the few fuzzy pixels of an object from the outer fringes of space. Distinguishing one "fuzzy" from another "fuzzy" is often useful, although an uninformed viewer might dismiss them both as simply "fuzzy pictures."
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The second image seems to be suffering from some black crush, judging by the three stripes in the dark part of the green shirt worn by the person in the middle which are visible in the first picture. The first picture also seems to show a bit more detail, e.g. in the bottom lip of the girl.
On the other hand, the second picture has a bit more contrast. But then again, from these phone pictures, I can't judge what it is supposed to look like.
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Here they are; can you tell?

Looks like VHS.

Well, I meant discounting the obvious issues created by taking a cellphone picture, Kind of like when NASA decodes the few fuzzy pixels of an object from the outer fringes of space. Distinguishing one "fuzzy" from another "fuzzy" is often useful, although an uninformed viewer might dismiss them both as simply "fuzzy pictures."

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