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Do we need "Thin Pak" as a new case type? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,119 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would like to add "Thin Pak" as a new case type to describe the slim keepcases which studios are including in many box sets. I think they are different than keep cases, because they take up less space, will not stand up on their own, do not have a clip for a booklet inside, are would often used to describe child profiles of TV series box sets.
Some Thinkpaks in my collection are: Twin Peaks Season 2, Futurama season box sets, Alexandro Jodorowsky box set, the Brady Bunch seasons, Jason of Star Command set, Friday the 13th: From Crystal Lake to Manhattan set. | | | | Last edited: by Doombear |
|  | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have already requested this too. I just forgot to mention it in the other threads. | | | | Dan | | | | Last edited: by Dan W |
| | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Double post | | | | Dan | | | | Last edited: by Dan W |
| | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think I requested it as "Slim Pak" though. Not that it matters much either way. | | | | Dan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | A keep case is a keeo case, regardless of it's width, or we going to also add the bigger cases.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,119 |
| | Posted: | | | | I thought of bigger cases being added too, but decided that they are just fatter keepcases.
I see Thinpaks as being different, as they won't stand on their own, and are becoming more widely used simply to conserve space on shelves. Their spines also cannot support attractive artwork because of their thin-ness. Also, their type would be easy to determine to collectors. I can see a large use for the Thinpak.
Some case types like Drawer, Clamshell, CD Jewel, and Jewel I barely have any of in my collection. They might be more common in the 1990's and outside North America however. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Doombear: Quote:
I thought of bigger cases being added too, but decided that they are just fatter keepcases.
I see Thinpaks as being different, as they won't stand on their own, and are becoming more widely used simply to conserve space on shelves. Their spines also cannot support attractive artwork because of their thin-ness. Also, their type would be easy to determine to collectors. I can see a large use for the Thinpak.
Some case types like Drawer, Clamshell, CD Jewel, and Jewel I barely have any of in my collection. They might be more common in the 1990's and outside North America however. What does being able to stand up on its own have to do with anything? It is still structurally a keep case, regardless of how thin or fat it is. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,119 |
| | Posted: | | | | They are structurally different in that they are slim and will keep falling over on the shelf if not supported by other discs or held in a box. I think it would be good to know where those exist. Being able to see a a slimpak case type in the database would be useful info for potential buyers, as shelf space is becoming an issue for many collectors. Having a case type of Slimpak would be easy for contributors to determine. Fatter keepcases would be hard to define, as they come in many varieties (eg. 3, 4, 5...8, 10-disc with 1 & 2-disc sometimes-overlapping hinged trays, etc.) but Slimpaks are unmistakable. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Doombear: Quote:
They are structurally different in that they are slim and will keep falling over on the shelf if not supported by other discs or held in a box. I think it would be good to know where those exist. Being able to see a a slimpak case type in the database would be useful info for potential buyers, as shelf space is becoming an issue for many collectors. Having a case type of Slimpak would be easy for contributors to determine. Fatter keepcases would be hard to define, as they come in many varieties (eg. 3, 4, 5...8, 10-disc with 1 & 2-disc sometimes-overlapping hinged trays, etc.) but Slimpaks are unmistakable. And if you've got shelves that aren't perfectly level and square, then even regular keepcases won't stand up on their own. I've got over 30 shelves worth in bookcases that are older than many of the people who participate here. A keep case is a keep case, and width has nothing to do with it. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 280 |
| | Posted: | | | | Eh, while structurally similar, keep cases and snappers are also structurally similar (and we have an entry for snappers), as are keep cases and steel books (and people would like an entry for steel books).
Each of them is considered fairly different, though, conceptually. 'Keep Case' is 99% of all the ordinary stuff out there for single-disc sales. I can't think of a single instance of a thinpak being available for sale individually, though; they're always part of a set. Conceptually the thinpak brings certain attributes with it: space-saving, lightweight, no inserts, and usually part of a set/box/collection.
I would find it useful to add this as a variant, just as I would find it useful to know about a snapper case as a variant (though for different reasons). |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 467 |
| | Posted: | | | | Snapper and Keep Case is not at all similar. I don't see any use for thinpak, since these are just thinner editions of a keep case. And if we do add this, we must have one for the keep cases who are thicker than the ordinary ones. What should we call them? We can't call them keep case. What about "Fat Pak"?  | | | | Last edited: by pompel9 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pompel9: Quote:
Snapper and Keep Case is not at all similar.
I don't see any use for thinpak, since these are just thinner editions of a keep case. And if we do add this, we must have one for the keep cases who are thicker than the ordinary ones. What should we call them? We can't call them keep case. What about "Fat Pak"?
The difference is though, these are actually give a name by the person that created them, the Thin Pak. If they called fat keep cases "Fat Paks" you'd have apoint, but you don't. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,119 |
| | Posted: | | | | Pplchamp, good point. All retailers are calling them Thinpak, which are manufactured by Nexpak. We're at a new version of DVD Profiler; probably a good time to revise some of the case types. Their simple circular hubs are slightly different than keepcases. If you go to discount stores like Wal*Mart, you'll see many bargain-bin titles packaged in Thinpaks. | | | | Last edited: by Doombear |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kinematics: Quote:
Eh, while structurally similar, keep cases and snappers are also structurally similar (and we have an entry for snappers), as are keep cases and steel books (and people would like an entry for steel books).
Each of them is considered fairly different, though, conceptually. 'Keep Case' is 99% of all the ordinary stuff out there for single-disc sales. I can't think of a single instance of a thinpak being available for sale individually, though; they're always part of a set. Conceptually the thinpak brings certain attributes with it: space-saving, lightweight, no inserts, and usually part of a set/box/collection.
I would find it useful to add this as a variant, just as I would find it useful to know about a snapper case as a variant (though for different reasons). Sorry, but there are no substantive differences. I have seen thin keepcases sold by the hundreds, with individual UPCs. I can think of at least half a dozen stores in town right now that have them. All those 'differences' you're talking about are aesthetics, nothing more. There IS a major difference between a keep and a snapper, though. A snapper is an assembled case of cardboard and plastic parts, whereas a keep is a one piece injection molded case. You can take a snapper apart, but not a keep. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | In most cases Thin Paks are used with Bootlegs or Box Sets, so I think it's a bad idea to include this. It's just a thin keep case, nothing more. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | In your post to Ken to add case types, I think you should remove the Thinpak. The poll is split dead even between Yes and those who voted either No or Don't Care.
Technically, there is no functional difference between a thin, standard, or fat keepcase. They exist because manufacturers are always looking for a way to cut costs, and they use less material than a standard case.
There are some distinct disadvantages to them though, that I think many people are overlooking in their zeal to add them as a separate type. You don't get any of the inserts you get with a regular keeper, and cover art becomes an issue because they have to print a different insert to fit. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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