The 10% figure was just pulled out of the air as a starting point and we never really discussed whether it was a good idea and what other factors we might use and how these play out with real films rather than in the abstract. I can see some need to draw a line, but I think it should be a lot less than 10%.

Did we develop a rule?  I though that Ken picked that number. 

I don't think it's no one wanted to discuss it, i think the number Ken proposed was good enough to most of us.  It was to me.  I haven't seen a better suggestion.

I don't think that the 10 % rule is very useful. Movies like The Wizard of Oz, Antichrist, JFK or Natural Born Killers are famous for mixing colored and monochrome images. They have to be considered mixed. This doesn't change because someone finds out that black and white is only used 8 % of the time.

I'd be more liberal about the whole thing and say: If there is any scene in the movie that is shot in black and white (or desaturated in post production) then the movie is mixed. But I wouldn't include still images in that because photos are another medium than film.

I don't know if I understand this correct. But if I add a filter for "color" movies, "The Wizard of Oz" should not be in that list ? Is that what you mean ? To me "The Wizard of Oz" is a color movie, whatever you say. Even up to 50% black & white and it will still be a color movie to me.

O.K., this question may come off as dumb as I haven't gone and read the newest rules, but reading up to here tells me they aren't 100% clear anyway...

What is the difference between mixed and multiple?
Is multiple for things like The Mist SE and BD that have a color version on one disc and a B&W on another of the same film? Or that Night of the Living Dead dvd with the colorized version and orginal B&W together on one disc? Does more than one disc change anything in these cases?

Or is multiple for stuff like Sin City, that is mostly B&W but with other color highlights?

What should Sin City be tagged as under these choices?

Didn't color start as a part-time thing, and even older movies that were only a few scenes in color, but mostly B&W, still labeled as color from the studios? Maybe we could use those guidelines, if I'm not just imaging them.

Quoting bigdaddyhorse:

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What is the difference between mixed and multiple?

Mixed concerns one movie and its colour palette. Multiple is applied when you have more than one movie and they have different colour palettes.

It doesn't look like the 10 % rule will change so I think we should start making a list of movies that were checked with a clock if they really can be considered "mixed". This way not every release of a movie has to be checked for the length of the different color formats.

I have already checked these two color movies for having more than 10 % of black & white footage so they should be mixed:

- Kill Bill Vol. 2
- The Blair Witch Project

Maybe there should also be a list of movies that are mixed but below the 10 % mark so everybody knows which movies have already been checked.

This can get difficult with movies with different versions (director's cut, censored releases etc.), so everyone checking a movie should also say if it's the original version or something different so the different versions can be added to the list.

Should we open a new (pinned) thread for this?