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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
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Personally, I think it'd make sense to prefer using the DVD info largely because in the BD combo pack, DVD is the secondary format. I usually buy Blu-rays nowadays and rarely use disc-level profiles, but I wouldn't mind having the DVD info. Would this really affect anything other than case type and cover art?
Would it affect anything besides case type and cover art? Perhaps not, but that's beside the point. As I said before, the "DVD" in a Combo Pack is no less valid an entry than a standalone DVD release.
Why should Combo pack users have to sacrifice? I don't see the justification in that. I buy Combo packs all the time, and I do submit many of the DVD's into the database as child profiles. What is the sacrifice? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | To me... not having exactly what we actually bought in the main database. While most can be changed locally and still appear correctly in the online collection lists... not everything can (cover art).
And I wholeheartedly believe that the combo set users has just as much right to have that as the DVD only users. That it should not be that one group ALWAYS gets exactly what they bought in the online and the other group NEVER gets exactly what they bought in the online. That is just not right and something I personally will always be against.
But once again... I feel what needs to be done is being able to make profiles for both groups... but that takes a program change from Ken. Till then I feel the only right way to do it is the first come first serve. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
To me... not having exactly what we actually bought in the main database. While most can be changed locally and still appear correctly in the online collection lists... not everything can (cover art).
And I wholeheartedly believe that the combo set users has just as much right to have that as the DVD only users. That it should not be that one group ALWAYS gets exactly what they bought in the online and the other group NEVER gets exactly what they bought in the online. That is just not right and something I personally will always be against.
But once again... I feel what needs to be done is being able to make profiles for both groups... but that takes a program change from Ken. Till then I feel the only right way to do it is the first come first serve. Thanks for the explanation. I think sacrifice is a strong word to be using for it. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | If it can't be correct for everyone, then at least it should be consistently wrong for some (DVD owners), until Ken comes up with a solution. But don't hold your breath! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | In this instance I really don't think it should be consistently wrong for anyone. I think everyone should at least have a chance for it to be right. Which is why I believe at least until Ken does some sort of fix it should be first in wins. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is consistently wrong for any multiple box set, reissues. So now add in TV-series and combo packs.
Could never understand how a DVD collecting program could ignore alternate covers.
this is really a UPC/Disc id collecting program.
now if they could come up with multiple cover art for each UPC/disc id, then you could select the cover art for what you own without changing anyone elses. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Which is why I said... Quote:
But once again... I feel what needs to be done is being able to make profiles for both groups... but that takes a program change from Ken. Till then I feel the only right way to do it is the first come first serve. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rizor: Quote:
Personally, I think it'd make sense to prefer using the DVD info largely because in the BD combo pack, DVD is the secondary format. I usually buy Blu-rays nowadays and rarely use disc-level profiles, but I wouldn't mind having the DVD info. Would this really affect anything other than case type and cover art? My feelings exactly. Combo pack owners are already going to have the blu-ray profiles, why do they also have to have the DVD profiles? I am sorry, but I just don't get it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't. When I get a Blu-ray/DVD combo, I'm buying it for the Blu-Ray, the DVD I consider a bonus disc. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't. Exactly! And some people do buy Combo packs who don't even own a Blu-ray player yet. They just want to be ready for the future when they do have one. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
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The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't.
When I get a Blu-ray/DVD combo, I'm buying it for the Blu-Ray, the DVD I consider a bonus disc. And when I buy the combo set.... it is because I want the combo set. Because I can see the use of both the blu-ray and the DVDs. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
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The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't.
Exactly!
And some people do buy Combo packs who don't even own a Blu-ray player yet. They just want to be ready for the future when they do have one. This is very true as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,685 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't. I buy combo sets for the blu-ray. I consider the DVD just extra baggage, so I do not need or want it profiled. But that's just for my local, of course. I fully understand that others have different wants and needs. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
The DVDs are still part of the set. I know when I get a combo set I want profiles for everything in the set that I got. Blu-ray and DVD both. I just can't understand why someone wouldn't. I respect that other users have a different profiling "philosophy", but I don't use the child DVD profiles because I feel the BD parents already adequately denote the presence of a DVD copy. All the child profile tells me is the audio and subtitle specs of the DVD. As I only watch the BD copy, this information is useless to me. The child profiles just clutter up my database, inflate stats, and give me more to audit/edit. From my perspective, they're redundant dead weight. I usually buy the BD/DVD combo packs because they don't sell the BD any other way or the BD-only releases drop extras. I can see the value of the DVD copy, but I feel having the DVD box ticked under media types is enough for me.  | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I've never liked the "first come, first serve" being the way data is decided.
Why in the world should the ability to type faster make it "right"?
Fix the problem - find a solution that works for both the DVD and Blu-ray owners.
Anything less, imho, is unacceptable. This, it is probably the biggest current issue with the program. Quoting hal9g: Quote:
If it can't be correct for everyone, then at least it should be consistently wrong for some (DVD owners), until Ken comes up with a solution. But don't hold your breath! Who knows what he is working on. He's dropped hints about some sort of Online Plus, but who knows what that entails. For the life of me I can't understand why he keeps the community in the dark as much as he does. Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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Personally, I think it'd make sense to prefer using the DVD info largely because in the BD combo pack, DVD is the secondary format. I usually buy Blu-rays nowadays and rarely use disc-level profiles, but I wouldn't mind having the DVD info. Would this really affect anything other than case type and cover art?
My feelings exactly. Combo pack owners are already going to have the blu-ray profiles, why do they also have to have the DVD profiles?
I am sorry, but I just don't get it. [LOPAN]Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it![/LOPAN]  Sorry, couldn't help myself. I don't track TV children, and don't own any combo TV sets (yet!) so don't really have a dog in this fight. Unfortunately in the meantime you have to go to which get's released first, if it's the same day then unless Ken steps forward and makes a definitive ruling  the tie breaker goes to whichever was submitted first. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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