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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Do we know for certain that if an ID change is accepted, then it's the new ID that's displayed in the profile? Or are they just added to the background info?
The reason I ask is that I can't remember ever seeing an ID change come through when I've been previewing updated profiles. Maybe I've just missed them. I think it shows the last disc-id added. after the contribution is accepted, and the online updates the local profile, all data is equal, so the updated disc-id returns. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
to have it recognised in your computer? if the original disc-id is overwritten by a more recent one? but that's the point - the IDs aren't overwritten, the new one is simply added without erasing the old one. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting Giga Wizard:
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to have it recognised in your computer? if the original disc-id is overwritten by a more recent one?
but that's the point - the IDs aren't overwritten, the new one is simply added without erasing the old one. sorry, should be more specifique: on the local computer with the next online refresh. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,685 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
sorry, should be more specifique: on the local computer with the next online refresh. The disc id is not overwritten on the local computer. The profile will hold all disc ids that have been submitted (unless I totally misunderstood what Ken said). | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
Quoting Giga Wizard:Quote:
sorry, should be more specifique: on the local computer with the next online refresh.
The disc id is not overwritten on the local computer. The profile will hold all disc ids that have been submitted (unless I totally misunderstood what Ken said). I got the impression that's what would happen too. If the new ID overwrites anything, it simply overwrites what ID is displayed on the profile. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is all that should happen, All disc ID data is captured and recorded when approved. Only the displayed ID is changed, not truly replaced. Which as I have said, I long ago started addinf the ID to my notes to leave myself a trail, so that I can see that regardless of what is displayed, mine has been captured. I could care less what is displayed, as long as we capture all the possibilities.
It would be useful to be able to see exactly which IDs are in the system, and perhaps even interesting to see how Disc ID variations we have on any particular title. But that is up to Ken.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | this is what i did:
export database with this option: One file per profile (filenames are UPC.xml) export. (do this in an empty folder, a lor of xml files (as many as you have dvd's and boxes in your DB)) Open the xml. file with IE explorer (D:/RIP/8714865557501.9.xml) these records show only that one set disc-id is present for a DVD disc side.
- <Discs>
- <Disc>
<DescriptionSideA>Main Feature Disc 1</DescriptionSideA>
<DescriptionSideB />
<DiscIDSideA>5C19482556A74EB9</DiscIDSideA>
<DiscIDSideB />
<LabelSideA>EU_109557</LabelSideA>
<LabelSideB />
<DualLayeredSideA>True</DualLayeredSideA>
<DualLayeredSideB>False</DualLayeredSideB>
<DualSided>False</DualSided>
<Location />
<Slot />
</Disc>
- <Disc>
<DescriptionSideA>Main Feature Disc 2</DescriptionSideA>
<DescriptionSideB />
<DiscIDSideA>8CE301C463C20E8B</DiscIDSideA>
<DiscIDSideB />
<LabelSideA>EU_109557</LabelSideA>
<LabelSideB />
<DualLayeredSideA>True</DualLayeredSideA>
<DualLayeredSideB>False</DualLayeredSideB>
<DualSided>False</DualSided>
<Location />
<Slot />
</Disc> | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Then we need Ken to clarify how the multiple IDs are stored locally, if at all. It may be a simple case that only the displayed ID is exportable, or it may be that only one ID is stored locally with the rest stored online, in which case we need to start locking our IDs!  |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | that just means the xml output only includes one disc id (just as the program only displays 1 disc id) it tells us nothing more.
The question is, does the local profile actually contain all variations of the disc id. My guess is that it does for the following reason. When you add by disc id, Ken has stated that it uses all known disc ids to find a match. Since this information is coming from the downloaded 'profile headers' if you will and is not sent out to the Invelos servers and then a response sent back with matches it would seem logical that the same info is available in your local copy of the complete profile.
The way i would handle it, is when contributing a profile it checks the disc id against all existing for that profile. if it doesn't match any of the variations it then it either automatically adds it or works as currently and displays it with a check box to contribute that piece of data. if it does match an existing one, it simply doesn't display it as one of the contributable fields
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
... which case we need to start locking was this not a default after installing DVD Profiler: Lock disc information when edited? | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
was this not a default after installing DVD Profiler: Lock disc information when edited? Yes it is, but all that may mean is that it stops the displayed ID from being overwritten, not that the ID is removed completely. One way to test it is to find a profile which contains an ID which does not match your disc, then see if Profiler takes you to the right profile when the disc is inserted. If it does, your ID is in there somewhere. Now all you have to do is find a profile with a differing ID...  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 940 |
| | Posted: | | | | My understanding is that ALL disc ID information is stored in the online db. Your locally stored disc ID (displayed) is either the actual disc ID (if you added it by inserting the disc) or the one that was "prevalent" when you downloaded the profile.
If you insert a disc which has an ID that is not already in the online, no profile will be found and the program will ask if you want to add the new profile. Answer no to that prompt and edit the profile that you have (that was previously added by UPC or Title) and set the disc ID. If you insert a disc and it finds the profile, the disc ID is already somewhere in the system, even if it does not match the displayed disc ID in your local profile.
At least that is the behavior that I seem to recall seeing. | | | | Kevin |
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