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Call a Moritorium on Birthyear and Common Name
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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It can't?  Why can't it?  Is that just your opinion, or it is based on programming experience with databases?



We're waiting.  Explain how it would work.


I already did that, and so did Skip.  Close your mouth long enough to see the screen and maybe you'll be able to read something.
John

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I like the feature how it is now in DVDP.... 
And let's keep it this way.... 
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It can't?  Why can't it?  Is that just your opinion, or it is based on programming experience with databases?



We're waiting.  Explain how it would work.


I already did that, and so did Skip.  Close your mouth long enough to see the screen and maybe you'll be able to read something.


I'm sorry, but I've read this topic a couple of times and I still don't understand how your association method will differentiate between the two Lon Chaneys. And it sounds like I'm not the only one. Any way you could set it out differently for us "thickies"? 
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Or more precisely,

Lon Chaney (birth year 1906)=Lon Chaney Jr=Lon Chaney Jr.=Lon Chaney, Jr.=Creighton Chaney

Sr. was never credited as such during his lifetime, but if he is so credited in a compilation of some kind (or in recreated title cards for a silent) then we would have:

Lon Chaney (birth year 1883)=Lon Chaney Sr=Lon Chaney Sr.=Lon Chaney, Sr.

Both birth dates on at least these two are well documented.



Problem is, as I understand it John wants to completely eliminate BYs.


You don't understand $#(&, because if you really thought about what I said, you'd know what I was talking about.
John

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It can't?  Why can't it?  Is that just your opinion, or it is based on programming experience with databases?



We're waiting.  Explain how it would work.


I already did that, and so did Skip.  Close your mouth long enough to see the screen and maybe you'll be able to read something.


Please indulge us imbeciles and explain it just one more time.

How does the alias system deal with the two different Kevin Smith's without using BYs?

Just answer the question John instead of claiming that it has been answered.
Hal
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It can't?  Why can't it?  Is that just your opinion, or it is based on programming experience with databases?



We're waiting.  Explain how it would work.


I already did that, and so did Skip.  Close your mouth long enough to see the screen and maybe you'll be able to read something.


Please indulge us imbeciles and explain it just one more time.

How does the alias system deal with the two different Kevin Smith's without using BYs?

Just answer the question John instead of claiming that it has been answered.


No, I'm not playing your stupid games.  You aren't going to create a red herring and make me the fall guy.

I explained it twice in this thread, in detail, and in plain English.  Go back and read it.  You guys keep saying it won't work, but you haven't had come up with a reason WHY.  I laid out my objections quite clearly, and I'm not some puppet you can jerk around at your leisure.  You gave me a ration of crap for objecting to the way it was set up in the other thread, so I took it hear and made my case to Ken.  Now you're pulling the same crap here trying to make it look as if I'm attacking Ken.  I'm through talking to you, because you don't listen anyway.
John

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OK, it's obvious to me that there are people who like this info and people who don't.

How would it affect the database if Ken were able to set up some sort of filter, where those who don't want this info can have it removed from any profile they upload? And hopefully some sort of filter that would also allow them to download profiles without removing the info from the online database?

Do you think that would work, at least as a stop-gap until there's a more formalised way of treating this new data?
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Why should Ken have to do that? If John is this super database designer and programmer, why doesn't he write his own program? Or a plugin? Why doesn't he spell out his plan to the finest detaiil?

All John seems to want to do is whine and call Hal names. All Hal is doing is asking what others want to know.

If one doesn't like features of a program, one finds a new program.


Edit:Fixed the spelling of Hal's name.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeGerri Cole
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Enhancements are coming to both the birthyear and common name parts of the program. Unfortunately, they have taken a bit of a back seat to some other issues lately.

Let's keep it civil in here.

-Gerri
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Alright, John.

I don't know what game you think I am trying to play here.  I simply want to understand the entire proposal and how it would work so that I and others can properly evaluate it.

Since you refuse to explain it for us, I will take a shot at it, and perhaps you would be willing to nod yes or shake your head no; or maybe say "you're getting warmer", or "you're getting colder".

Please do not accuse me of trying to put words in your mouth! 

So here goes.

Kind of gleaning from everything that I recall, your proposal for the "alias solution" also includes the use of arabic numerals for actors with the same name.

These numbers are to be generated by whom?

Guess on my part:  The system itself generates the number when you tell it that you have a duplicate of an existing actor name.  Let me know if that is close.

Assuming my last statement to be accurate, how does the user know, when they are entering a cast list, which of the two same named actors (except one has the number 1 after it) is which?  How do they determine which one to put in the current profile they are working on?

My next guess to my last question (this is fun, isn't it):  While entering the cast list, Ken can add the ability to see all the films that the current actor appears in on the fly.  The user can then determine based on their knowledge of the actor's career which one to pick.  Am I getting warmer or colder?

But, then,  what if the user's local database doesn't contain any other movies for the said actors?  How do they pick the right one?

Gee, I'm stumped.  I guess I've asked myself too many questions and can't remember my own answers.

As you can see, just as you and a certain other user think that Ken's solution is half-baked, it is not quite as simple to come up with a solution that addresses every scenario as you seem to think.  Of course, you may have an answer to all of these questions, but unfortunately we (and more importantly Ken) will never know, because you aren;t going to play my silly game.

Too bad you're not talking to me anymore.

I guess we'll just have to settle for my answers. 
Hal
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See the Rules Forum, I THINK you'll find it OK.

Skip
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I don't really have anything to add to this thread, as the original poster seems not open to discuss more details aboiut his suggestion, even though asked by several people.

I will say, however, that I do not support the motion to put the features on hold.


Thanks for update, Gerri. Looking forward to see what you guys will come up with.
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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I don't really have anything to add to this thread, as the original poster seems not open to discuss more details aboiut his suggestion, even though asked by several people.

I will say, however, that I do not support the motion to put the features on hold.


Thanks for update, Gerri. Looking forward to see what you guys will come up with.

My sentiments, too, Achim.  Epecially about the original poster unwilling to discuss the details.  Apparently he thinks if someone doesn't understand something he has eplained "twice in this thread, in detail, and in plain English." we should "Go back and read it."  Well, I've read this and several related threads, am fluent in English, plain or "fancy," but I still don't comprehend his proposal.  I guess that means I'm stupid and not worthy of further explanation.

I must say that might better understand what is being proposed if I didn't have to wade through a half dozen pages or more of people carping at each other.
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