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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,463 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Magmadrag: Quote:
I can ensure you, as long as there is data in the dummy profile, it doesn't matter if it is owned, ordered or wishlist. There are a few profiles in my wishlist, and even they are part of the update process.
This way I'd like to say that for the program it doesn't matter where the cast & crew is to find in a profile. As soon as they are anywhere without a BY, they became part of the ACTORS/CREW files.
Not sure if this thought could be integrated in THIS tool or needs another one: You remember a few posts before I had the death date issue. Well, there's the same one with birthyears: I found actors with a BY listed in movies which were produced several years before they were born. But I think this check might need another tool, as I got no logically idea how this issue has any connection to the problem I started this thread for.
Not importand but anyhow confusing and funny: To find out if the actors listed in the profiles are the ones with the right BY, I have to check a lot at the IMDB. And today I reached an actress, allready passed away in 1998, and they list several movies "in planning" up to 2026. I can't imagine that she has been kind of mummified and now only plays dead corpse. That's funny!  Anyway, don't worry about what the original purpose, etc. I can make the tool do whatever I want. So, what check are you talking about for the hypothetical other tool? I already have in mind a cross reference that includes a column for both birth and death years. | | | Thanks for your support.
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 |  Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's simply calculation
"If Production Year < Birthyear"
then any "alarm" to check the cast/crew with the questionable birthyear.
Not really possible that a movie produced e. g. 1999 includes cast born 2004
That's all thought |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just for fun I updated my BySpecial to include check for suspicious birth years:  Any birth year that is more than 90 years before production date is flagged as suspicious. Double clicking a line opens the corresponding profile in DVD Profiler. BySpecial 2.0Again, this only checks cast. I can expand it to include crew if requested. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 | | Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | @GSyren:
Nice Idea but there is missing "the other part", too: If the production year is before the BY.... ;-) |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Magmadrag: Quote:
@GSyren:
Nice Idea but there is missing "the other part", too: If the production year is before the BY.... ;-) No problem, just run the program backwards!  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,463 |
| | Posted: | | | | Good stuff. | | | Thanks for your support.
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| Registered: April 4, 2007 | | Posts: 884 |
| | Posted: | | | | Stan Lee of course screws up the 90 year limit for anyone with Marvel films in his collection, even just the ones which he actually performed in This raises an interesting question though: With posthumous appearances in franchises (Marvel, Star Wars etc.) getting more and more common, will such a tool need a list of known exceptions? | | | | - Jan |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | @Magmadrag: I think it's a mistake not to do everything possible to fix the database. Even if at the moment the problem only manifests itself during export, it's not going to get better, but it might very well get worse. I see you haven't uploaded you collection since March 30. Does that mean that upload doesn't work for you either? Does backup work without errors? It is, of course, entirely up to you if you want to ignore this problem. I'm just concerned that you may be setting yourself up for a bigger problem further on.  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hydr0x: Quote:
Stan Lee of course screws up the 90 year limit for anyone with Marvel films in his collection, even just the ones which he actually performed in This raises an interesting question though: With posthumous appearances in franchises (Marvel, Star Wars etc.) getting more and more common, will such a tool need a list of known exceptions? That's the reason that I call it "Suspicious birth year" rather than "Incorrect birth year". It does exclude any role that contains the word "archive" though. There will always be occurrences that need to be researched. I don't think they will be more than can be handled. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 | | Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
@Magmadrag:
I think it's a mistake not to do everything possible to fix the database. Even if at the moment the problem only manifests itself during export, it's not going to get better, but it might very well get worse.
I see you haven't uploaded you collection since March 30. Does that mean that upload doesn't work for you either? Does backup work without errors?
It is, of course, entirely up to you if you want to ignore this problem. I'm just concerned that you may be setting yourself up for a bigger problem further on. First of all: Upload I do from time to time.... as you have been at my collection, you see the size. And this way the upload needs time. As I don't have the neccessity to show everybody all I bought for the last two months, the upload is not that relevant for me. And according to the export problem: It is a couple of months ago, mabye one and a half years, when I was knee deep on solving this problem. And: EVERYTHING failed! Every solution caused more troubles than I had before. So what about if DJ Doena is right and it only depends on the old Win-32 Standard and the export is not possible as I got lots of foreign films with all those special characters? I'd like to say that there is nothing else left what it could be. Imagine spending 8 weeks, several hours a day, to find out, why the export doesn't work. And some of the solutions caused a database crush (inreperaible), made me un- and reinstalling profiler complete + creating a new database from a backup etc. etc. After all those troubles without any visible result and as anything else works quite perfect (you know that other users have problems with their database with much smaller collections) there IS nothing else I could try. According to the Win-32 Standard I had/have several "problems" or at least dislikes as some characters/special letters are available as they are included, others not as they are allready Win-64. Even tools have that problem on some special ways, and I had to learn, what doesn't work. So I only can ask: A cleaned up working database of kind of an extraordinary size works. Would you provoke another crush only for the export if you don't need that feature? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | You seem to immediately take a defensive attitude rather than answering my questions. Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
The problem is that DVD Profiler is stuck in Windows XP 32-bit world with the known "foreign letters" ANSI technology on top. At some point you will just reach the natural limits of what this program is capable of. I don't think he meant that it is the foreign characters that are causing a problem, but rather that the 32 bit technology sets some limits "at some point". I don't believe that you have reached that point. If foreign characters were a problem that caused crashes we would have heard a lot about it. We haven't. Quoting Magmadrag: Quote:
EVERYTHING failed! Every solution caused more troubles than I had before. That doesn't sound like a trivial problem that will only ever affect exports. But hey, if you don't want to discuss it, that's up to you. I've said what I felt needed saying. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just FYI the download for BySpecial expires May 25 so you can't download it after that. It was never meant to be a supported program. However, I intend to incorporate suspicious birth years in the next version of BirthYearCheck, and it will cover both cast and crew. Look for an announcement in the Plugins forum. Eventually ...  | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 | | Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | According to BYs:
I am a little bit confused as imo for some actors the BYs wouldn't be neccessary if there would have been done a search for their common name before.
Just two examples:
"Anthony Holland (1920)"
much more times credited as "Antony Holland"
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"James Henrie (1993)"
much more times credited as "Lorenzo James Henrie"
So which rule is to prefer in such cases? The common name or the BY? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,678 |
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 | | Posts: 453 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually not sure if this "problem" ("idea") should be part of the BirthYearCheck or the Creator:
Since I started to check all the BYs of Kluge's list, whenever I add a new profile for what I recently bought, I check every single cast (so far only cast) with a BY if it is correct.
Allready the problem then is: If the actor would need a BY but the creator of the profile didn't know or didn't care (I heard some are not interested in BYs), then the tool should "say" something like:
BE CAREFUL! This cast (Name 1, Name 2, Name 3) and/or this crew (Name 4, Name 5 etc.) are allready available with BYs. A check is recommended!
Or something like this! That's much easier than to check only the ones with are allready with BY and includes the ones where the BY probably was not entered.
So the tool needs no reference to or integration of Kluge's list (that would be impossible as this list is living and still growing) but only needs to check cast & crew if the same name is available with BY.
In my case: Whenever one person of that name got a BY, I give all other versions one, too, mostly the Fakes, but that's the only way to see a difference of 5, 6, 7 or more persons of the same name. It would be a dream if the Fake-BYs become an official part of the BY-List... especially in case of sharing headshots |
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