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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRMC
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I'm only using iOS version and at the moment it's working fine.  I don't have a desktop so am reliant on others adding things to the database.

My complaint is this, why do people who add things not bother with the total lineup of titles in a release slate, certainly here in the UK?  The US and Germany seem much better served by more community-minded users.

An example is the forthcoming Arrow slate for September.  Six titles, but only the 4K disc of Forbidden Planet has been added.  When Powerhouse Films put up new titles (2-4 per month) not all appear and the favour is the 4K versions.  Surely, if someone is putting the 4K one up they could also do the standard BD as well?
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I think, generally, people only contribute for the discs they actually have/own, as this ensures the data they enter is accurate. Sure, the same title in BD and 4K are mostly the same, but unless you own both versions you can't be sure some of the more technical specifications are identical.
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As someone who is sent the BD versions of the Powerhouse Indicator discs, they're identical in terms of content, running times etc.  in the USA and Germany, the users seem more altruistic and most things get put up.  No one seems to out DVDs up and no one is really willing to help.  I have about 200 DVDs and BDs from various UK companies that have sent me discs to review for Rewind / DVD Compare that are not in the database.  About nine years ago a kind soul on here did about 75 titles that I had but since then only one person has offered, did about three then went silent.

The thing is, I can't upload the info coz I don't have a desktop version of DVD Profiler.  The more complete the database is, the better it will be us.  As to folks only doing ones for the discs they have; well, most are preorders so they don't have the discs yet and are going purely by the listings on Amazon.  Hence my comment re the forthcoming Arrow Forbidden Planet being up already but none of the other six are.
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Looks like you will be missing some entries, at least until someone adds them.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRMC
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This is it you see, folks only pick the ones they're interested in out of a list of 4-6 preorders.  No one seems interested in the greater good of the community and the comprehensiveness of the database.  Is it really that hard to add them? (I don't know because I only have the iOS version)
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Maybe it's time for you to get the full version and add them yourself, for the greater good of the community and the comprehensiveness of the database. I don't know what else to tell you.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAlunH
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Quoting RMC:
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This is it you see, folks only pick the ones they're interested in out of a list of 4-6 preorders.  No one seems interested in the greater good of the community and the comprehensiveness of the database.  Is it really that hard to add them? (I don't know because I only have the iOS version)

If you're creating a profile from scratch and doing it properly, it takes a minimum of thirty minutes.  It can take an hour.  (Unless you're simply cloning an earlier profile and adding the new cover.  The trouble with Indicator is that quite often they're the first people who've ever released something.)

So, yes, it's quite a bit of work.  And when there are very, very few of you doing it, it's time that you don't necessarily have to spare all that often.

Also, I don't buy every title Indicator puts out.  (I have no interest at all in Rollin, for instance.)  I also don't pre-order every Arrow title - only the ones I want.

So when someone complains that not enough of us are doing it, and that German users are more community-minded, it's a bit of a slap in the face.
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Sorry, that was not my intention and I certainly didn't realise it took so long for new entries.

However, my complaint with the Powerhouse Films's releases is that someone will do the 4K UHD BD preorder but skip the regular BD when both are released.  If memory serves, all of the Powerhouse discs turn up on there eventually unless there's a simultaneous 4K / BD choice.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAlunH
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The database is very much centred around contributing the titles that you own.  To contribute a title that you don't own, you still need to treat it as one that you do own, then submit it.  So people tend to only contribute the titles that they actually possess.

For copyright reasons we can't harvest cast and crew details from the IMDb, so they all need to be entered manually. 

For quality reasons we can't harvest cast and crew details from the IMDb, because I have never encountered a single IMDb entry that didn't contain at least one error.  So every profile here has to be (or at least *should* be) created from scratch, and the cast and crew details sourced directly from the on-screen credits. That's why it takes so long to create a profile.
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Ah, understood.  What about basic profiles that don't have cast and crew data?

But what about titles that have yet to be released, no one owns those yet?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAlunH
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I don't know about everyone else, but for titles that have yet to be released I have them in my 'ordered' tab.

A basic profile without cast and crew is very easy - about five minutes.  But I'd far rather wait until the title is actually released before I add it.  It's much easier to keep track that way.  (Mainly because I too hope that someone else will have created the profile in the meantime!)

Different contributors have different areas that they specialise in.  I'm very much a cast and crew contributor.  I'm still working through all my old Network titles and making sure they're all fully credited within the database. 

There are some who like to make sure the rating details are correct, others who are very picky about studios, some who like to make sure the overview is correct, others who want the edition fields to all tidy up neatly.  I dare say we all look at the work the others do and think 'it's nice that they're doing that, but I don't know why they're bothering' while we work on our own area of interest.  But there are now very few people who contribute regularly.
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