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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNosferatu
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I was checking the profile for The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part (5051892220576) and going through the audio tracks when I discovered I couldn't enter the commentary because it's the 17th audio option on the disc.

I've no idea if there's a way to expand the audio field to 20 or 25 options because, with multi-region 4K Ultra HD discs, there are so many languages that 16 options could become increasingly insufficient.

As anyone else encountered this on another profile? If so, what did you do?
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I seriously doubt that there is a way to extend the number of audio tracks. The most number of tracks in my collection is 14, so I never had that problem.

What would I do? I would list the first 16 in the order they appear on disc. Not an ideal solution, but what can you do?
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Quoting GSyren:
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What would I do? I would list the first 16 in the order they appear on disc. Not an ideal solution, but what can you do?

That's what I've done. It means missing the commentary (the last audio track) from the profile, because I couldn't think of a better alternative.

There are three Chinese tracks – Cantonese, Chinese Mandarin, and Taiwanese Mandarin – but I didn't think omitting one of those made any sense. Besides, which one would I have omitted and which would I have left in?
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Quoting Nosferatu:
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As anyone else encountered this on another profile? If so, what did you do?

Typically, I use Track 16 as "Other" and document the language/languages it represents in the profile submission.

Here are some 4K examples I have encountered in the past and what I wrote in the profile submission:

•  4K ZOMBIELAND had 20 audio tracks:
Audio tracks listed in order as they appear on 4K disc menu. There were twenty (20) audio tracks and DVDP only allows maximum of sixteen (16) tracks.  Track 16 was listed as "Other" for the following omitted audio tracks (all Dolby Digital 5.1):
- Russia
- Spanish (Castilian)
- Spanish (Latin American)
- Thai
- Turkey
- Ukraine

•  4K AQUAMAN had 19 audio tracks:
There were nineteen (19) audio tracks and DVDP only allows maximum of sixteen (16) tracks.
Track 16 was listed as "Other" for the following omitted audio tracks (all Dolby Digital 5.1):
- Tamil (India)
- Telugu (India)
- Thai
- Turkey

•  4K ELYSIUM had 20 audio tracks:
Please note there were twenty (20) audio tracks and DVDP only allows maximum of sixteen (16) tracks. 
Track 16 was listed as "Other" for the following omitted audio tracks:
    Track 16 -->  Spanish (Castilian) - Dolby Digital 5.1
    Track 17 -->  Spanish (Latin American) - Dolby Digital 5.1
    Track 18 -->  Thai - Dolby Digital 5.1
    Track 19 -->  Turkish - Dolby Digital 5.1
    Track 20 -->  Ukranian - Dolby Digital 5.1

•  4K MEN IN BLACK 3 had 17 audio tracks:
There were seventeen (17) audio tracks and DVDP only allows maximum of sixteen (16) tracks.  Track 16 was listed as "Other" for the following omitted audio tracks (all Dolby Digital 5.1):
- Turkey
- Ukraine

•  4K THE BOSS BABY had 17 audio tracks:
There were seventeen (17) audio tracks and DVDP only allows maximum of sixteen (16) tracks.  Track 16 was listed as "Other" for the following omitted audio tracks:
-  VLAAMS (Flemish) - DTS 5.1
-  Mandarin (Chinese) - Dolby Digital 5.1

This is a rare example where I condensed 17 audio tracks down to 16 audio tracks.
•  4K BAD BOYS II had 17 audio tracks:
To accommodate all separate languages, the two Spanish tracks (13 and 14) were amalgamated as follows:
==> "Spanish" tracks (Castilian and Latin American) amalgamated as single "Spanish" track (both were Dolby Digital 5.1) as revised track 13.
==> "Tamil" language was listed as "Other" on the revised track 14 (Dolby Digital Surround).
==> "Telegu" language was listed as "Other" on the revised track 15 (Dolby Digital Surround).
==> "Thai" language was listed as revised track 16.

Hope that helps.
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That's an interesting idea.

With that approach, I guess you would amalgamate the three Chinese tracks into a single 'Chinese' entry and then have room for the commentary.
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As long as the Chinese audio formats were all the same, you could condense the three tracks to one, leaving two empty spaces for the audio.

If two Chinese tracks were DD 5.1 and the other Chinese track was DTS 5.1, I would add two Chinese audio tracks, which would still leave space for the commentary track.

I should also point out that when I use Track 16 as "Other", if the various omitted audio tracks have different audio formats then I leave the format as BLANK.
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I decided to amalgamate the two Mandarin Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks, thus creating a spare slot for the commentary track.

Thanks for your replies 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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I'll have to go back and look at the table structure of DVDP, but I believe it was set up so each audio track was a separate field in the table.  Meaning each profile had only one record in that table instead of each audio track being a record. Had it been the latter, in theory, a profile could have unlimited audio tracks per profile.
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