There are instances this is valid. A recent example is Twister (R1 US). There are 2 versions. 1 with dts and 1 without. However, dts is only mentioned on the back cover.

Therefore the edition is valid in this situation according to the rules (although Skip's interpretation was different to everyone else's).

But if there isn't a non dts version, then removing it is fine.

From the Contribution rules:

The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate.

"DTS" is one off the built in selections of the program. It is appropriate, since the logo is on the Case and the DVD contains a DTS track.

Since the program originally comes from the US, I GUESS (!) that in the US there are (or were) more instances in which DTS was a discerning factor between editions.

While it may be true that this practice didn't carry over to Europe, for consistancy purposes I'd prefer to keep things the same across the board.

What's the harm? If youi don't like this Edition moniker, just remove it locally (as you've already done), but don't impose your interpretation of the rules onto the online db and other users.

Btw, if the logo is just on the back-cover in the language box, I wouldn't qualify it as an Edition moniker. For that, mentioning "DTS" has to be done in a prominent way, catching the eye of a potential customer.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Andy that would be because the edition , as you noted was on the back cover and not the front. And the Rules say WHAT? Hmmmmm..

Skip

The rules say:

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If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.

DTS being available through the pulldown makes it a standard description. The rules don't say the edition must come from box. They only reference the box in non standard cases, and even then the rules do not say it has to be the front cover.

If there are 2 editions of a film available, one standard DD and the other DTS I see nothing wrong with following the rules by using the standard DTS description. (Although I usually see nothing wrong with following the rules  )

Well, I have no problem with putting 'DTS' as an edition for all my DTS disks (as suggested by the submitter in PM as well) if that is the consensus. Yet, I think that DTS, which is just an Audio format which apparently (for legal reasons I guess) requires a logo on the box, can hardly be called an Edition of a DVD. Also, there are definitely many DVDs that do have an actual Edition (like 'Director's Cut' or 'Limited Edition') which also have a DTS track and logo. I'm sure no one puts both in the Edition field.
BTW, I checked my collection (of about 600) and only 9 have the DTS edition mentioned, while over 100 in my collection have a DTS track. I think it really does look a bit silly to have almost 20% of my DVDs carrying the DTS edition to be honest. The Edition field gives me the sense of having a special version. Clearly DTS is not that special nowadays...;)

Quoting Repter:

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The Edition field gives me the sense of having a special version. Clearly DTS is not that special nowadays...;)

I'm with you on that, Repter.  I am likewise annoyed by the Widescreen Edition moniker (yeah, it is stated explicitly in the rules).  How can it be special if the widescreen edition is the only DVD release for that film?  It's like calling "The Sound of Music" the "In Color Edition."
What I'm getting at is my wish for a submission rule: "The edition field can be filled only if there has been more than one version of that title released onto DVD."

Quoting djskyler:

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What I'm getting at is my wish for a submission rule: "The edition field can be filled only if there has been more than one version of that title released onto DVD."

Not practical, as

a) not everyone knows every available edition in a certain region / locality (or would you go global to determine different editions?) when setting up a profile, neither does evrybody casting a vote (and reading is not one of the strong aptitudes of some users casting votes, it seems...)

and

b) there may be future editions that make the use of an Edition entry necessary, so you'd maybe have to go back and correct profiles you strip of their eiditions now in the future.

That's why I'm all for putting every kind of Edition present on the box into the profile. After all, the distribution company thought it important enough to print it in the first place. Who are we to decide that it isn't?

Quoting Darxon:

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a) not everyone knows every available edition in a certain region / locality (or would you go global to determine different editions?) when setting up a profile, neither does evrybody casting a vote (and reading is not one of the strong aptitudes of some users casting votes, it seems...)

I don't consider that a problem as there are tons of data in the profiles that for most users are not obvious or for which they'd have to do research.
However, what I did in this concrete instance (Autumn in New York, loc. Netherlands) was to look at all available profiles for this DVD in Europe, and clearly in every locality there was only 1 instance. And even though some localities have DD and others have DTS, I don't think DTS can be considered an edition in the Netherlands, since it is the only edition there is.

I think the following would be good guidelines :
1. If the box clearly mentions a moniker that refers to an edition or version, then take that moniker. Examples: "The ultimate version", "Collector's Edition", "DTS Release", etc... We'd probably need a (short) list of words typically used for this (edition, version, release, boxset, etc...).
2. If 1 doesn't apply, then look for other clearly distinguishing monikers that seem to refer to an edition. Examples: "Unrated", "Full Loaded", "Double Fun", etc...
3. If 2 doesn't apply, then look if there are multiple versions on DVD for this movie and add the distinguishing characteristic. It is here that a moniker 'DTS' or 'Widescreen' may come into play.

Personally I find 3 already a bit far-fetched, because you'd definitely have editions that have multiple changes and I'm sure we don't want to mention all... So why mention DTS which happens to require a specific logo and not e.g. that there are now also SDH subtitles in the re-issue (just to give an example) ? Yet, I understand why people would want to have 'DTS' mentioned, especially since in the early days it was an extra selling point for some people (comparable with DDD on CDs).