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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 19 |
| | Posted: | | | | In this MGM'S/FOX 2 disc release there are 2 version of the movie: the theatrical cut (on disk 1) and the director's edition (on disk 2). Is it a box set or a single release ?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting sax: Quote:
In this MGM'S/FOX 2 disc release there are 2 version of the movie: the theatrical cut (on disk 1) and the director's edition (on disk 2). Is it a box set or a single release ?
Thank's. Two Film's' Each slightly different too the other. Therefore a Box Set. Steve |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not so sure - it's not as if they are 2 completely different cuts of film. One simply has more violence than the other.
If you compare it to the UK release of the The Brood, which has the US version on one disc and the UK cut on the other. This has been done as a 2 disc set. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,264 |
| | Posted: | | | | Strictly speaking no this is not a box set. Quote:
The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. Quote:
For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) on the same disc, use the longest running time. Exception: If the longer version is available only as part of an Easter Egg, use the shorter running time. But it's ambiguous as they are on two discs. | | | | IVS Registered: January 2, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Lithurge |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | So you are now saying that Superman II the Box Set is no longer a box set
Superman II the Theatrical release
Superman II the Richard Donner Cut
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Same scenario...1 movie two releases.
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | They're classed as different films because different directors with different editors have created two completely different films.
It's a lot different from Verhoeven putting back in the shots he had to remove to get an R rating. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Still two different releases even the official MGM website gives them as two different release dates.
Theatrical - January 1 1987
Directors - July 17 1987
So IMHO should be classed as a Box Set.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,338 |
| | Posted: | | | | i would say no way on a box set... this is the same thing as an unrated version of a film with an option to show the regular version... they are on two discs for reasons of technicality... this would be one movie, and a regular profile.. and the rules quoted in the previous post illustrate that the program intends for this type of disc to be ONE title. | | | | -JoN |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | So how would you define
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 2.1
same movie same director etc, just one is defined as a directors cut (2.1) because it has a few extra scene's, that's classed as two different movies?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 761 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting snarbo: Quote:
So how would you define
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 2.1
same movie same director etc, just one is defined as a directors cut (2.1) because it has a few extra scene's, that's classed as two different movies? Not the same issue as the Robocop dvd, because these are two different releases that are not packaged together. For the Robocop 2-dvd, I would use the dividers for cast and crew. But that's my opinion. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is clearly a box set. The rules state:
"The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film."
End of story. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's not that easy, read what Lithurge wrote 7 posts up  | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
It's not that easy, read what Lithurge wrote 7 posts up Quoting Lithurge: Quote:
Strictly speaking no this is not a box set.
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The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film.
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For branching titles, or those with multiple versions (e.g. Theatrical and Director's Cut) on the same disc, use the longest running time. Exception: If the longer version is available only as part of an Easter Egg, use the shorter running time.
But it's ambiguous as they are on two discs. Also note the LAST part of what Lithurge stated But it's ambiguous as they are on two discsSteve |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, let's discuss if the presence of more than one disc is mandatory for a box set, or if it should rather be the presence of two different films that constitutes a box set.
I'd say the latter, and the presence of a Theatrical and Director's Cut version in the same case, albeit the number of discs, does not constitute two different movies, it's just different cuts of the same movie.
This is NOT Ben Hur (1925) and Ben Hur (1959), but it's both Robocop (1987) | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would say it's not a real box set (theatrical and director's cut), but Ben-Hur style profiling should be allowed. The beauty about the Ben-Hur style profiles is, that both camps (single profile and box set) should be satisfied with this approach. And it would be easy enough to change that into a real box set for the local database. |
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