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is it illegal to see DVD's without cover/case?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRandall_Lind
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I just brought a used version of Troy 2 disc DVD for $5.98 off Amazon and I didn't know it came with out a DVD case or cover.

Isn't that against the law? I also believe it is a bootleg copy because the play side is purple and so is the DVD-r brand I use for backing up my DVD's etc.

Should I report it to Amazon?
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I don't think it's against the law. I often see case-less DVDs for sale in the Previously Viewed bins at rental stores like Blockbuster and Rogers (Canadian chain).

As for whether it's a bootleg, I don't know much about the colour of DVD-R's vs. legit stuff, but how does the label look? The few bootlegs I've seen have clearly inferior labels, although relatively good for being "home made" the colour quality and sharpness tends to be off compared to the real thing.

If you determine that it is indeed a bootleg, I would most definitely notify Amazon. Also, double-check the ad to make sure the seller didn't state somewhere that it came without cover. And if they didn't, notify Amazon of that as well.

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I use Ritek dvd-r and some other brand which has purple color. I turely believe it is a pirate movie

Nero tool says read speed 12x,8x,6x,4,2x and the disc id is MCC 02RG0

I put in Click and some other retail DVD's to check and it just mention track side and disc is 12cm and how many layers.

I don't really care persay about people copying DVD's but when I buy a used DVD I don't expect a copy DVD.
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It may have sold as No case cover but art-sleeve is shipped with Disc, this cuts down the s&h costs by 50%.. Youi just have to spend a dollar to replace with new jacket.

It is also possible that the DVD doesn't have the jacket and sleeve because it is an ex-rental  or the disc was discovered in a used sold DVD player and the buyer kept the disc as an extra and then sold on
Amazon in the used market- sellers area. this is not a disc sold by Amazon itself, as Amazon only sells new materials and not used.

If it was a bootleg You wouldn't have all the extras such as 5.1 plus extra audio channels/ commentary/ featurettes/ 16x9 anamorphic wide screen / CC / subtitles/  animated menu screens and even macrovision.

edit thanks Dr. Killpatient..  forgot about Disc ID .. 
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If the Disc ID is "MCC 02RG0", I would say it's a boot.  Every Disc ID I see in DVDP is a long Hex string.
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It may have sold as No case cover but art-sleeve is shipped with Disc, this cuts down the s&h costs by 50%.. Youi just have to spend a dollar to replace with new jacket.

It is also possible that the DVD doesn't have the jacket and sleeve because it is an ex-rental  or the disc was discovered in a used sold DVD player and the buyer kept the disc as an extra and then sold on
Amazon in the used market- sellers area. this is not a disc sold by Amazon itself, as Amazon only sells new materials and not used.

If it was a bootleg You wouldn't have all the extras such as 5.1 plus extra audio channels/ commentary/ featurettes/ 16x9 anamorphic wide screen / CC / subtitles/  animated menu screens and even macrovision.

edit thanks Dr. Killpatient..  forgot about Disc ID .. 


Not true you can copy the whole DVD. I can do a complete back up with Nero encode / anydvd and have everything or I can just backup the movie. I am going to only buy sealed in box used / new DVD's off Amazon marketplace.
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If it was a bootleg You wouldn't have all the extras such as 5.1 plus extra audio channels/ commentary/ featurettes/ 16x9 anamorphic wide screen / CC / subtitles/  animated menu screens and even macrovision.


Why not? They'd just have to use a program like DVDFab in order to copy all of that.
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If the Disc ID is "MCC 02RG0", I would say it's a boot.  Every Disc ID I see in DVDP is a long Hex string.



MCC 02RG0 is the media code of a type of DVD-R (Manufaturer: Mitsubishi Chemicals, often sold under Label of Verbatim or Prodisc).

This is definitly not a printed DVD.

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If it's purple on the playing side, it's a copy/boot, no question.
I have never seen any legit disc with a purple surface, they'll be gold or silver.
I would definitly report this to Amazon, you have every right to and the seller has every right to be visited by the FBI. You should get your money back and get the seller booted if nothing else.

I can copy any disc and leave whatever I want on there, and with my non-HD set-up and 32" screen not see the difference unless I compress more than 40%. If you have a nice set-up then you will suffer the conequences of the extra compression needed to fit a dual layer onto a dvdr. If it's a dual layer dvdr then it shouldn't matter quality-wise, but there's still the principal that you paid for a real dvd and not a dub. Also if it didn't mention no case or slipcover then they should included as they are part of the dvd purchase.
Go, report and get refunded. Not sure what makes a seller think they can get away with crap like this, but they shouldn't and won't if they're called out on it.
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If it's purple on the playing side, it's a copy/boot, no question.
I have never seen any legit disc with a purple surface, they'll be gold or silver.


Not always. Seduction Cinema/e.i. Cinema sometimes uses DVD-R's on their official releases. They once sent me a replacement disc which it was a DVD-R with a printed disc label.

Tempe has also released some DVD-R's (or at least one) to retailers. The recent "Shock Cinema Collection: Limited Edition" even has a note on the back cover that the 2nd disc in the set is a DVD-R.
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It may have sold as No case cover but art-sleeve is shipped with Disc, this cuts down the s&h costs by 50%.. Youi just have to spend a dollar to replace with new jacket.

It is also possible that the DVD doesn't have the jacket and sleeve because it is an ex-rental  or the disc was discovered in a used sold DVD player and the buyer kept the disc as an extra and then sold on
Amazon in the used market- sellers area. this is not a disc sold by Amazon itself, as Amazon only sells new materials and not used.

If it was a bootleg You wouldn't have all the extras such as 5.1 plus extra audio channels/ commentary/ featurettes/ 16x9 anamorphic wide screen / CC / subtitles/  animated menu screens and even macrovision.

edit thanks Dr. Killpatient..  forgot about Disc ID .. 


Not true you can copy the whole DVD. I can do a complete back up with Nero encode / anydvd and have everything or I can just backup the movie. I am going to only buy sealed in box used / new DVD's off Amazon marketplace.


well I guess that goes to show you I have never attempted to copy an entire DVD.  I thought you couldn't with todays Macrovision encoding?

Anyway re-reading you first post it appears ypou ordered and have now received this purplesided disc, if that is the case,  purple is the clue here.
Contact the seller tell him your situation and he should reimburse all monies back to you or you'll contact the FBI. These are frowned on alot even if it is just one disc.
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I don't care about refunds because I am not paying to ship them back. I just want the guy flagged so people know not to buy from this seller.
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This is most definitely a bootleg!
Did it say anything in the description when you bought it about no artwork and what "kind" of DVD this is? 
Anyways, give him negative feedback and explain why you did so and also contact Amazon.
I dont care about people making backups or copying rental copies etc, but once they start selling them its a whole different story.

I had a similar experience with a music CD that I bought off Amazon which was "used" and it was a bootleg as well, even the artwork had been printed or copied, I contacted them and they closed the seller's account, send me a pre-paid envelope to ship the CD and at the same time refunded my account.
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I believe it said used DVD maybe it said without case/cover but I am not sure about case/cover. I sure would not buy a bootleg copy of a DVD I could just copy it myself from Netflix if I wanted a copy.
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If the surface is not Silver or Gold then it is a burnt DVD.  Retail DVD's are not burnt they are printed on the media then covered with a coat of clear protectant.  I would contact Amazon and refuse to ship the product back.
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I did file a complaint and I gave the seller a very bad comment saying DVD was bootleg not used like stated.
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