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Have you heard of the THIRD HD format??
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorJuoquim
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Has anyone heard of the third HD format - HD VMD???

Pics of the players (starting at $199.99) here:
HD VMD format coming to the USA

More info here:
Not ANOTHER Hi-Def Format! Does It Have A Chance?

Maybe it's time to rename the " HD DVD and Blu-ray" topic in the Home Theatre Discussion threads???   
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Does it have any U.S. studio support? If not it's already a dead format.
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I think they are a bit late into the race. Early adopters have already adopted and the rest will follow when HD DVD hits <$200. Yes, I predict a winner, but that doesn't mean that Blu-ray will go away. But I doubt there's room for three formats.
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Yes, I've been hearing about this format for the past few years.  And I agree that they missed the boat.  They would have had to have come out before either of the other two formats.  Or they have to wait for both current formats to die.  If they released it now, I don't think they'd have a prayer.  Or studio support.
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I had already posted something in the HD DVD and Blu-ray thread.

I guess that they're too late for the U.S. but possibly can still try and sell in Europe?
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Doubtful, HD DVD and Blu-ray are just as entrenched in Europe as in the US and Japan.
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Everybody counted AMD out, too, in the CPU wars.  Same old lines about too late to the party, and can't possibly catch up, etc.  Well, they ended up putting some serious hurt on Intel, and we as computer users are all the better for it.

Bluray and HD-DVD have only a tiny, miniscule chunk of the market.  The new guy on the block doesn't even have to compete against them because there is 99% of the DVD market left to capture from.

If it is as good as the first two in terms of sound and picture quality, it has just as good a chance as they do to carve out a good size market for itself.  The DVD market is billions of dollars large.  Even if they only garner a couple hundred million, that is plenty of success, profit, in today's fast changing market.
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I'm not dismissing the technology, but that's not what sells a system. What are they going to release on it without studio support, public domain movies?
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I'm not dismissing the technology, but that's not what sells a system. What are they going to release on it without studio support, public domain movies?


Exactly, and I for one don't see Hollywood willing to support three formats, hell, some are only supporting one format.
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Everybody counted AMD out, too, in the CPU wars.  Same old lines about too late to the party, and can't possibly catch up, etc.  Well, they ended up putting some serious hurt on Intel, and we as computer users are all the better for it.


That's very true.  But don't forget that AMD was basically trying to create a clone of the Intel chip.  This new format is trying to create something new and different.  I think it's way to late to introduce something completely different at this point.
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Where does this leave the CH-DVD which I read about on engadget?

It is based on the same standards as HD DVD but with additional advanced copy protection??
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"China DVD"?  I wonder how long it'll take for their encryption to be cracked?

It's my opinion that four competing formats will do only one thing - keep DVD in the limelight for far longer than previously anticipated.  If someone comes in now and wants to win, they have to provide far better quality at close to or at the same price provided by others if they want to have a chance.

So far, Studio's are supporting HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.  From a monetary standpoint, it doesn't make sense to support more than two competing formats because it'll mean fewer sales in any one format.
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I'm not dismissing the technology, but that's not what sells a system. What are they going to release on it without studio support, public domain movies?


Exactly, and I for one don't see Hollywood willing to support three formats, hell, some are only supporting one format.



But why wouldn't they support a format that sounds as if its is much cheaper in cost, especially if it provides the same quality as the two new types?

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From my understanding from an earlier article, CH-DVD is not meant to be a globally competing hi-def format, it is simply China's version to keep western influenced hi-def formats from catching on in China.  Supposedly the DVD-Forum has been involved with China in making it similiar with HD-DVD for compatibility, at least that is how I read that article!!!
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That could very well possibly it?
I actually thought that it would have been indeed a fourth format.

It would be in the best interest of the consumer if there would actually be only one format. Now that there are three formats it is most unlikely that people will upgrade their systems and will wait for ... who-knows-what?
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Everybody counted AMD out, too, in the CPU wars.  Same old lines about too late to the party, and can't possibly catch up, etc.  Well, they ended up putting some serious hurt on Intel, and we as computer users are all the better for it.


That's very true.  But don't forget that AMD was basically trying to create a clone of the Intel chip.  This new format is trying to create something new and different.  I think it's way to late to introduce something completely different at this point.


Their initial venture was to create a cheaper Intel clone, true.  But that very quickly divurged and took its own path.  The only similarity between them is that they both use instructions based on the X86 architecture.  There are two things though, that I suspect may allow them to really put the whammy on Intel.  AMD bought ATI, which will allow them an unprecedented integration of CPU and GPU that will have a major impact on the industry.  And, their quad core CPU is actually a single wafer with a true quad core (which will allow much greater processing increases), while Intel is using two dual core modules piggybacked on another wafer because of heat problems.
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