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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi folks! When searching/filtering for DVD titles, DVDP ignores articles (eg. entering "time" also displays "A Time to Kill"). Good feature... This is also implemented for the german articles "der", "das" and "ein". Very good feature - at least for German speaking guys...  But the female article "die" is not supported (eg. "Die Jury" is not found after entering "jury"). Bad bug... I don't know if this is a bug, or if the english verb die as in "Die Hard" forces this behavour... Any idea? Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think it's deliberate because how's the program meant to know the difference between "Die Jury" and "Die Hard"?
Unless Ken can program it somehow to check the locality... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,745 |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think it's deliberate because how's the program meant to know the difference between "Die Jury" and "Die Hard"?
Unless Ken can program it somehow to check the locality... I see four possible way to handle this issue: a) by checking the locality of the DVD - but I think this would need another database field "search title" since this cannot be done on the fly... b) by just ignoring the "Die Hard" Problem. - I - personally - would prefer to get more than less results. c) by including the "sort title" into the search - in most cases this is exactly the title without the articles... d) by making the article list user defineable - means local at the workstation. In this case every user can select which words are articles and which aren't... After rethinking the whole thing, I'd prefer the third way. Why? Because this also resolves an issue I have with box sets, where the box set title is set in front of the film title. In this case the film could be found either by searching for the box set or by searching for the film (which is the title field)... Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 630 |
| | Posted: | | | | When working of the XML data I used the sort title to determine if "Die" is an article or not. Basically if the first word of the sort title was equal to the word following "Die", then I considered it an article.
I am sure there are cases where this would not work (accents etc present in the title but not in the sourt title springs to mind) but in general it worked quite well. | | | Regards
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Bug? Articles sometimes necessary for search, sometimes not After reading the Wikipedia table cited in the above thread, I find it curious that the article for the feminine changes from "die" for nominative and accusative cases to "der" for genitive and dative cases but that for masculine it doesn't change from "der" to "die." No wonder I had a hard time learning German in school (and subsequently have forgotten most of what I learned).  | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,715 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting DJ Doena:
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Bug? Articles sometimes necessary for search, sometimes not
After reading the Wikipedia table cited in the above thread, I find it curious that the article for the feminine changes from "die" for nominative and accusative cases to "der" for genitive and dative cases but that for masculine it doesn't change from "der" to "die."
No wonder I had a hard time learning German in school (and subsequently have forgotten most of what I learned). That's why the plural prefers the female one <to myself>No, be serious! ... this was invented to prevent American from being able to learn German ... but to be serous: the tables are correct... AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
That's why the plural prefers the female one
<to myself>No, be serious!
... this was invented to prevent American from being able to learn German Maybe my ancestors came here some in 1749 others in 1860 so they could forget about having to speak German. Probably not all of them, as I think about it, because my great-grandfather Barth never learned to speak English. I think he came here to avoid being drafted into Bismarck's army. Quote:
... but to be serous: the tables are correct...
AA I never assumed they weren't correct. It just seems odd to me. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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