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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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Came across this list of Additional Voices after the sound credits (Yes the Crew section) just thought I'd check before entering the entire list and then finding that nobody wants them have checked a few with the CLT and they already have credits for Finding Nemo as Additional Voices so looks like they have already been entered in some profiles. And while were at it does Brian Magerkurth get any credit.
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They are not partof the cast list, they are very clearly separated from the rest of the cast.

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You might as well add the Finding Nemo profile from my collection and copy-paste the cast list, because they already have been entered.
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Let's start with, what I think, is the easy one.

There is a credit for 'Sound Re-recordist' in the credit chart.  I would consider 'Re-Recordist' to fall under that credit.  So, yes, I would credit Brian Magerkurth.

As for the rest...

You have to ask yourself one question...

Are these credited actors?

This is an animated film, which means all of the actors are voice actors.  These actors are credited as 'additional voices'.  Clearly they are 'credited actors' and we enter all 'credited actors'.  JMHO
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I'd go with Unicus on this one.  In an animated film, all voices are voice actors regardless of where they appear in the credits.
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So that means we include a separate list of Dancers from a film? Inconsistent. This very similar in type to what we see in live action films, we have to be consistent. It's NOT.

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A list like this indicates to me that these are the animated film version of extras, for crowd scenes etc.
But you are right in that they are doing exactly the same job as the other voice actors, so I'd have no objection to you adding them.
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So that means we include a separate list of Dancers from a film? Inconsistent. This very similar in type to what we see in live action films, we have to be consistent. It's NOT.

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That's why I included the question, as well as the answer.  I don't consider a list of dancers 'credited actors', I consider them 'credited dancers' and we don't have a field for that.  But that's just me...and I mean that, fairly, literally. 
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I would not object to these being added.
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A list like this indicates to me that these are the animated film version of extras, for crowd scenes etc.
But you are right in that they are doing exactly the same job as the other voice actors, so I'd have no objection to you adding them.

I suppose they are just like extras.  Personally, I'm indifferent.  I would add that when one considers just how worked up some folks get about trying to remove uncredited actors, I can't imagine a whole lot of arguments about adding actual credited ones.  It's all the same to me.
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A list like this indicates to me that these are the animated film version of extras, for crowd scenes etc.
But you are right in that they are doing exactly the same job as the other voice actors, so I'd have no objection to you adding them.

I suppose they are just like extras.  Personally, I'm indifferent.  I would add that when one considers just how worked up some folks get about trying to remove uncredited actors, I can't imagine a whole lot of arguments about adding actual credited ones.  It's all the same to me.

Actually, it doesn't matter to me either.  I'd prefer that a long list like the one cited not be added to the profile just so it doesn't look like the cast list for Around the World in 80 Days.  But, I think that there's a difference between extras (who generally don't get lines) and voices (who do, by definition.) Besides, there are a couple of recognizable names in the list ninehours shows -- and someone might want to know they were in the cast.
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All credited actors involved are NOT listed together in a single section at the end of the film, therefore by definition this film does not have standard credits (end credits). Therefore we have to read the rules further to find out how to handle this situation.
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