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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortomricci
Registered: March 18, 2007
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Shouldn't the data base except the O symbol for the titles Omega Man , and I am Omega both covers use the symbol not the letter O
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortomricci
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sorry for the confusion when I typed I used the Greek symbol for Omega put when I submiited here it came up O. so even this forum doesn't recognize the symbol
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Ω

Doesn't work


?

Also doesn't work

I'm stumped 
99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1."
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I think it's because both the software and forum only properly recognizes UTF-8 code units and cannot support multiple bits for representing UTF-16 as UTF-8. (The omega or "ohm" sign is a UTF-16 character.)
99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1."
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Same with this movie (which is out on DVD in the UK):

http://www.impawards.com/2007/posters/waz.jpg

The title is: W [greek Delta] Z - now it's listed as WAZ.
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I think it's because both the software and forum only properly recognizes UTF-8 code units and cannot support multiple bits for representing UTF-16 as UTF-8. (The omega or "ohm" sign is a UTF-16 character.)


UTF-16 is a 16 bit encoding of the Unicode character set. UTF-8 is a 8 bit encoding of the Unicode character set.

UTF-7, UTF-8, UTF-16, and UTF-32 can all encode any character in the Unicode character set.

The DVD Profiler program is ANSI (not UTF-8). The web site frontend is UTF-8 as far as I can see, but something in the backend is messing with the data.
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Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
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Error...
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Error...2
(Did not work here either...)
(( with greek keyboard v & V produces omegas, but as others has said already, it is messed with))
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The DVD Profiler program is ANSI (not UTF-8). The web site frontend is UTF-8 as far as I can see, but something in the backend is messing with the data.

I'm trying to edit the profile In the Land of Blood and Honey. In this Profile I find the Characters Ž and Š which I cannot enter with my (German) Keyboard. Since the cast is credited with all their diacritic characters, I'd have to know which character set DVDP uses exactly (ANSI is a group of character sets which members differ in many characters).

Does anybody know that exactly?

TIA
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The DVD Profiler program is ANSI (not UTF-8). The web site frontend is UTF-8 as far as I can see, but something in the backend is messing with the data.

I'm trying to edit the profile In the Land of Blood and Honey. In this Profile I find the Characters Ž and Š which I cannot enter with my (German) Keyboard. Since the cast is credited with all their diacritic characters, I'd have to know which character set DVDP uses exactly (ANSI is a group of character sets which members differ in many characters).

Does anybody know that exactly?

TIA



Željko Ivanek look this common name thread: here
  And see: here

Maybe you can Copy and Past it in your contribution.
John
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I do find a quick Google to find the specific character and then cut and pasting does work well.
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My Problems are other characters like the c or the Ð.

... and the real problem is not the insertion: Windows delivers a little programm called Zeichentabelle in German - I assume something like charactermap in English - which offers all possible characters of all character sets, which Windows can reproduce. But to decide which characters are usable, you must know which character set to use...
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorExiled
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DVDP supports the characters available in the code page used by your system for non-unicode programs. You can manually change the code page under Region and Language Settings, in order to access other character, but you can only have one code page at a time so it's not a real solution.

The submission system also doesn't consider the code page used by the submitter, which causes a bit of a mess. Let's say you submit a profile with the accented characters available to you. When the same profile is downloaded by someone in Poland or Hungary he will see other special or accented characters instead of the ones submitted by you.

I really hope version 4.0 will address this.
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Since DVD Profiler is a very old program already (from 2000) it has a rather outdated database system underneath.

My guess is that this database prevents the program from using UTF-8 and is stuck with ANSI.

ANSI supports a few special letters but not that many (basically the ones of the major Western countries in the early nineties).

To support all of the world's variations of the latin alphabet (like the special letters in Czech), the Greek, Russian and other alphabets as well as the symbol languages like Japanese Kanji and Chinese the program would have to switch to Unicode one of its variants being UTF-8.

But that would probably mean ripping out the database from underneath and putting a new one in. And depending on how intertwined the GUI code, the logic code and the database access code arethis could result in a major rewrite of the program.



That being said, I hate it when people try to force every gimmick in DVD title a bored cover designer came up with into the DVDP database.

I already hate "T4Xi", I will not like an "Omega Man" with an actual Omega any better. It defeats the whole purpose of a database.

When you whatch Ghostbusters and the library scene comes up and the ghost opens all the index card drawers and blows away the cards: Do you really think these cards contain cover gimmicks or do you think they were typed down in a way so people could actually FIND the books they were looking for?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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I already hate "T4Xi", I will not like an "Omega Man" with an actual Omega any better. It defeats the whole purpose of a database.

Glad to know it's not just me and Yves that feel that way... 
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