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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,685 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just profiled "DeathShip". The DoP is credited both in the opening and closing credits. In the opening credits he is "René Verzier" and in the closing credits he is "RENE VERZIER". Now, since Skip has so adamantly declared that "E" is "e" and not "é", these must be two different names. So should they both be given credit as DoP?  (In case anyone can't guess - I put him down as René Verzier. If anyone violently disagrees, now is your chance to add 851740-003703 to your collection and vote No  ) | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 810 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is the way I have done it in cases like this.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | I find this often for names that have lower base letters with accents in opening credits and caps in the closing credits. After all most people go to a movie don't stay for the closing credits. If you didn't profile a film or were not in the business how many would even pay any attention to the closing credits. Many of the closing credits go by so fast that if didn't have the ability to step through the closing credits you would not even notice the difference.
Oh, I agree with you, that's way I do it. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| | Posted: | | | | Agreed! | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
If anyone violently disagrees, now is your chance to add 851740-003703 to your collection and vote No ) I won't disagree or vote no as it's the way I did it in my database... I was sure the profile was complete, guess this is one I missed this weekend. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | I worked with two brothers whose name was Miiller. Now you just know that when their ancestors came to this country some bureaucrat didn't have an ü on his typewriter and thought it would be cute to type two i's.
And now all their ancestors are stuck with it. After all governments don't make mistakes or admit to them. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | CLU is close between the variants. I have 3 other titles he worked on, 1 has the accent, 2 don't. For now I have the accent as common but it's very close and this makes 2/2 on what I've seen. Maybe he needs a common name thread to be sure which is common?  I trust opening credits more than closing, not sure why, I just do. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
I worked with two brothers whose name was Miiller. Now you just know that when their ancestors came to this country some bureaucrat didn't have an ü on his typewriter and thought it would be cute to type two i's.
And now all their ancestors are stuck with it. After all governments don't make mistakes or admit to them. But they have a unique name and a fun story to tell. How many Mullers (or Müllers) are there?  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Given what you describe, gunnar, you did it right. Not the first or last time I have seen double entries, some with slightly different crediting. I wonder why it was necessary....oh eell | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Given what you describe, gunnar, you did it right. Not the first or last time I have seen double entries, some with slightly different crediting. I wonder why it was necessary....oh eell I would have done it exactly the same way, but unfortunately it's against rules and Ken clarifications. I believe that our French friend can tell you why, since he have battled over this issue for years. In this case he have my full support. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I would have done it exactly the same way, but unfortunately it's against rules and Ken clarifications. I believe that our French friend can tell you why, since he have battled over this issue for years. In this case he have my full support. I am not sure how it is against the rules as, for crew anyway, the rules do not specify which credits...opening or closing...we take the information from. Since he is credited in mixed case, in the opening credits, I don't see any reason not to use that credit. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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I would have done it exactly the same way, but unfortunately it's against rules and Ken clarifications. I believe that our French friend can tell you why, since he have battled over this issue for years. In this case he have my full support.
I am not sure how it is against the rules as, for crew anyway, the rules do not specify which credits...opening or closing...we take the information from. Since he is credited in mixed case, in the opening credits, I don't see any reason not to use that credit. I stand corrected. End credits rule is for Cast only. On the otherhand this makes rules even more confusing. At the moment capitalization rules are different for Cast and Crew. In this case correct capitalization is René, but in case he would have been part of the Cast instead of Crew the correct capitalization would have been Rene. Ridiculous  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not ridiculous at all. The data is what it is. Despite the double credit, this time Hollywood got one "right". Don't gripe about the data, gripe to Hollywood if you want them to behave like you want...good luck on that. And before you go on about lower case and diacriticals remember that Hollywood has done upper case and diacrits and upper case diactits are a part of Microsoft's character map. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Not ridiculous at all. The data is what it is. Despite the double credit, this time Hollywood got one "right". You're a joke. Seriously, you cannot see anything wrong in this? What if the same person would have been an actor in this movie also, credited excactly the same as his Crew credit? We would have to enter him as René (cast) and (Rene) (crew). And that isn't ridiculous??? Quote:
Don't gripe about the data, gripe to Hollywood if you want them to behave like you want...good luck on that. I don't gripe about the data, nor to Hollywood. I gripe about stupid DVDP rule which make us enter incorrect and inconsistent data. Quote:
And before you go on about lower case and diacriticals remember that Hollywood has done upper case and diacrits and upper case diactits are a part of Microsoft's character map. And what on earth that has to do with this? | | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
I don't gripe about the data, nor to Hollywood. I gripe about stupid DVDP rule which make us enter incorrect and inconsistent data. Don't try to make him understand that as the US doesn't use the accent he don't get the system... Caplock or not I use the way it works in the country a film is from. It's simple and argumenting about that here is a waste of time. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jimmy
That's pretty condescending. Fact ken ruled that we deal with the data that is actually there, not imagined. Further if you think that I have no knowledge of the ways other cultures do things you are wrong. But as I said many times its about the hard data without regard to culture, any culture. Just the data. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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