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Anamorphic on Blu-ray/DVD Combo Sets. To tick or not to tick, that is the question |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | For option 1, you wouldn't need to add an exception exactly. Just change the rule to say that if the DVD and DVD data are in conflict, use the BD data. Otherwise, it sounds like you are supposed to remove the DVD discs IDs and such, too. |
| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't really care what the community decides so I am stepping out of this discussion.
All I want to know is what I am required to do once the decision is made. |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: Quoting The Movieman:
Quote: Well, time to lock down profiles.
I listed three possibilities, one of which has the option checked in this case and two of which have it unchecked. Were you not on the side of leaving it unchecked? Ah, sorry. Misunderstood. You are correct. I'd say option 3, then. |
| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | For Ken: If you're going to make a program change, there's actually another possibility. Right now, this field is stuck in a DVD paradigm. In stead of making the field reflect whether the disc is anamorphic, yo could make it reflect whether the total frame including mattes frame is 16:9 or 4:3. |
| Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | I'd hate to dilute the meaning of the field. I know that some users (myself included) use it to determine whether to update titles to Blu-ray, and so filter on non-anamorphic DVD. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote: Maybe I'm being obtuse; but I don't see this as being the same at all. That is certainly your choice. Quote:
***SNIP***
Because those features are NOT on the 3D disc! So why the hell would I want to put them on there? It's idiotic to do so. For three reasons. First, because, in my opinion, that is what the rules tell us to do. Second, because those special features are included in the set. The fact that they are included on a DVD that also contains the same feature film doesn't change that fact. And third, because there are a lot of people...I am one...that do not use child profiles for the extra discs. Why should those people suffer just because you thing something is idiotic? Quote: Hence, my question (which was not facetious): Are we just saying that's what we should do because child profiles are optional? I didn't think your question was facetious...which is why I answered it. Unfortunately, since you have chosen not to accept it, you must think my answer was. Quote: The ONLY way this makes sense is if the child profiles don't exist. Personally, I'd rather go with NOT being allowed to add the child profiles than shoving a load of data into a profile that's not there. That's the only way it makes sense to you. I think I have given two reasons why it might make sense to other people. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: I'd hate to dilute the meaning of the field. I know that some users (myself included) use it to determine whether to update titles to Blu-ray, and so filter on non-anamorphic DVD. I agree with you there Ken. | | | Pete |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: 3) Automatically uncheck the 16x9 enhanced option at the time of contribution for profiles which have the Blu-ray media type checked. Clearly the better choice as it gives those that want to track this data, the ability to do so, while maintaining the integrity of the rule...that being that the main profile reflect the main media type. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
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| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: I'd hate to dilute the meaning of the field. I know that some users (myself included) use it to determine whether to update titles to Blu-ray, and so filter on non-anamorphic DVD. It wouldn't be so much diluting the meaning of the field as changing it. I do the same thing. That's actually why I wanted the change. Right now, searches for non-anamorphic return a bunch of Blu-rays unless you set a bunch of other parameters. If the field changed, you could just search for anything that embedded widescreen in a 4:3 frame and be able to ask a simple question with a simple search, which is how it should be. |
| Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Right now, searches for non-anamorphic return a bunch of Blu-rays unless you set a bunch of other parameters. My filter has widescreen on, anamorphic off, hd-dvd off, and blu-ray off. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
Quote: Right now, searches for non-anamorphic return a bunch of Blu-rays unless you set a bunch of other parameters.
My filter has widescreen on, anamorphic off, hd-dvd off, and blu-ray off. Right. Changing the meaning of the field would let you do essentially the same search with 2 parameters instead of 4 and would let you search for everything in a 16:9 frame, which is useful to people with a 16:9 tv, but not possible under the current search design unless you add results from two searches. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,819 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Quoting Pantheon:
Quote: Are we just saying that's what we should do because child profiles are optional? I didn't think your question was facetious...which is why I answered it. Unfortunately, since you have chosen not to accept it, you must think my answer was. Well, the simple answer would have been Yes. The info has to go in the parent profile for the very simple reason that the child profiles are optional. I was also not advocating doing anything that would result in people not getting the data they want. I was throwing out ideas and thoughts. My final solution of not adding child profiles does not 'just make sense to me' as you state. It would actually solve the entire issue because all the data would be kept in the one profile; just as people who don't want the child profiles prefer. From the general tone of your replies I get the impression that you think I was attempting to dictate what should happen; whereas, in reality, I don't care. I just want clear instructions on what to do with these profiles. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,293 |
| Posted: | | | | Option 1 for me;
Presently I've locked that section of the profiles but, since it's not possible just to block that checkbox I won't get any corrections to the BD aspect ratio etc which is annoying. | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,750 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Pantheon: Quote: If I get a 2-disc set in my hands that has a Film/Feature on Disc 1 and Features on disc 2 I do exactly as you state. However, when Disc 2 contains the same film and different features/details etc, then I create a child profile for the second disc to accurately track the data.
So, if I have a Combo set: Captain America 3D Disc 1: 3D Disc 2: 2D Disc 3: DVD 2D
I have 3 profiles for this set, each containing the details specific to that disc. My 'main profile' for the 3D version does NOT contain ANY of the Features from the other two disc. Why? Because those features are NOT on the 3D disc! So why the hell would I want to put them on there? It's idiotic to do so.
This is exactly the way I do them. Quote: The ONLY way this makes sense is if the child profiles don't exist. Personally, I'd rather go with NOT being allowed to add the child profiles than shoving a load of data into a profile that's not there. I want to keep the child profiles so as to track discs, features, sound tracks, subtitles, etc., that are unique to each disc. As I rip the main profile apart, I lock each section. It makes it difficult to update the changes that come along for each disc, but it's worth it to have accurate data for each disc in a profile rather all discs crammed together in 1 profile. Side note: I also do this for multi movies on one disc. Again, difficult to update, but worth it to track each movie separately. Needless to say, in both cases, I have more and more profiles with several locks. On the positive side, at least Ken has provided the tools to be able to accomplish this. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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