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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't understand what you mean by "noice".
Does/should comman name exclude BY data? Why? Or, why not?
It seems to me that the BY is still needed in order to differentiate the two different persons. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Because if the common name is either Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart, then the BY for Patrick Stewart is completely unnecessary.
Per the rules: Enter birth years only when necessary to differentiate between two actors with the same name. |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote:
Quoting huskersports:
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Patrick Stewart (1940): English actor, best known for his role as Jean-Luc Picard on the Star Trek series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/patrick_stewart/
Patrick Stewart (????)(aka Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart): Director of Photography on such US television series as 10 Items or Less, The League, and also on Tom Petty's "Running Down a Dream" DVD. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829716/, http://movies.nytimes.com/person/277296/Patrick-Alexander-Stewart, http://www.tv.com/people/patrick-alexander-stewart/
Patrick Stewart (DoP): 6 titles
Patrick A. Stewart: 2 titles
Patrick Alexander Stewart: 1 title
...that's why a BY is needed for the 2 Patrick Stewart's.
Can we get some additional confirmation on this? This is going to make a lot of noisy changes to the DB if it turns out the common name for this DOP is NOT "Patrick Stewart" I just went through the CLT and I got close to the same results. Patrick Stewart DoP/Cinetographer10 Items or less the Complete First and Second Seasons Flight of the Concords the Complete First Season Hotel King Arthur and Medieval BritanV Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: Runnin' Down a Dream Patrick A. Stewart DoP/CinetographerThe League: The Complete Season 1 The League: The Complete Season 2 I only came out with 5 titles, but paging through the different titles I could have missed some. But either way it looks like based on the CLT it is correct. Someone may want to open a thread to get visual confirmantoins. But barring that it looks like "Patrick Stewart" is the common name for "Patrick A. Stewart" | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote:
Because if the common name is either Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart, then the BY for Patrick Stewart is completely unnecessary.
Per the rules: Enter birth years only when necessary to differentiate between two actors with the same name. I don't see that the rules dictate that the commen name should be relevant in regards to BY. There are still 2 actors credited with the same name in certain titles. The common name might change, the BY will not. |
| | Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,289 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I don't see that the rules dictate that the commen name should be relevant in regards to BY.
From the Rules... "Enter birth years only when necessary to differentate between two actors with the same name." Yes, the common name may change, but if the common name is the same for two people we must use the Birth Year to 'differentate' between the two. * If the common name is different, there's no need for the BY. [*NOTE: Yes, that's right, I'm even spotting typos in the rules now! lol] | | | | Last edited: by GreyHulk |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Patrick Stewart (1940): English actor, best known for his role as Jean-Luc Picard on the Star Trek series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/patrick_stewart/
Patrick Stewart (????)(aka Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart): Director of Photography on such US television series as 10 Items or Less, The League, and also on Tom Petty's "Running Down a Dream" DVD. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829716/, http://movies.nytimes.com/person/277296/Patrick-Alexander-Stewart, http://www.tv.com/people/patrick-alexander-stewart/
Director of Photography Patrick Stewart:
Patrick Stewart: 6 titles
Patrick A. Stewart: 2 titles
Patrick Alexander Stewart: 1 title
...that's why a BY is needed for the 2 Patrick Stewart's. I amended my post of CLEARLY state the the Patrick Stewart results are for the BY-unknown Patrick (A./Alexander) Stewart. I didn't go through 87 pages of CLT results for fun, you know. The BY is needed. If, in 5 more years, after 5 possible more seasons of The League with Patrick A. Stewart as the credited name, the common name will change to Patrick A. Stewart, but at present, this BY is needed. | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! | | | | Last edited: by huskersports |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Quoting huskersports:
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Patrick Stewart (1940): English actor, best known for his role as Jean-Luc Picard on the Star Trek series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/patrick_stewart/
Patrick Stewart (????)(aka Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart): Director of Photography on such US television series as 10 Items or Less, The League, and also on Tom Petty's "Running Down a Dream" DVD. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829716/, http://movies.nytimes.com/person/277296/Patrick-Alexander-Stewart, http://www.tv.com/people/patrick-alexander-stewart/
Director of Photography Patrick Stewart:
Patrick Stewart: 6 titles
Patrick A. Stewart: 2 titles
Patrick Alexander Stewart: 1 title
...that's why a BY is needed for the 2 Patrick Stewart's.
I amended my post of CLEARLY state the the Patrick Stewart results are for the BY-unknown Patrick (A./Alexander) Stewart. I didn't go through 87 pages of CLT results for fun, you know. The BY is needed. If, in 5 more years, after 5 possible more seasons of The League with Patrick A. Stewart as the credited name, the common name will change to Patrick A. Stewart, but at present, this BY is needed. I agree at present it is needed and that is all we really have to go on now. People need to be able to differentiate now and the numbers show at his time it is needed. |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Quoting huskersports:
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Patrick Stewart (1940): English actor, best known for his role as Jean-Luc Picard on the Star Trek series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/patrick_stewart/
Patrick Stewart (????)(aka Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart): Director of Photography on such US television series as 10 Items or Less, The League, and also on Tom Petty's "Running Down a Dream" DVD. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829716/, http://movies.nytimes.com/person/277296/Patrick-Alexander-Stewart, http://www.tv.com/people/patrick-alexander-stewart/
Director of Photography Patrick Stewart:
Patrick Stewart: 6 titles
Patrick A. Stewart: 2 titles
Patrick Alexander Stewart: 1 title
...that's why a BY is needed for the 2 Patrick Stewart's.
I amended my post of CLEARLY state the the Patrick Stewart results are for the BY-unknown Patrick (A./Alexander) Stewart. I didn't go through 87 pages of CLT results for fun, you know. The BY is needed. If, in 5 more years, after 5 possible more seasons of The League with Patrick A. Stewart as the credited name, the common name will change to Patrick A. Stewart, but at present, this BY is needed. I know the time consuming feeling. I went through Tracy Morgan CLT to find 1 profile for a female actress named Tracy Morgan so he'll need a BY also. |
| | Registered: October 30, 2011 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,870 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
Quoting huskersports:
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Patrick Stewart (1940): English actor, best known for his role as Jean-Luc Picard on the Star Trek series. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001772/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Patrick_Stewart, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/patrick_stewart/
Patrick Stewart (????)(aka Patrick A. Stewart or Patrick Alexander Stewart): Director of Photography on such US television series as 10 Items or Less, The League, and also on Tom Petty's "Running Down a Dream" DVD. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0829716/, http://movies.nytimes.com/person/277296/Patrick-Alexander-Stewart, http://www.tv.com/people/patrick-alexander-stewart/
Director of Photography Patrick Stewart:
Patrick Stewart: 6 titles
Patrick A. Stewart: 2 titles
Patrick Alexander Stewart: 1 title
...that's why a BY is needed for the 2 Patrick Stewart's.
I amended my post of CLEARLY state the the Patrick Stewart results are for the BY-unknown Patrick (A./Alexander) Stewart. I didn't go through 87 pages of CLT results for fun, you know. The BY is needed. If, in 5 more years, after 5 possible more seasons of The League with Patrick A. Stewart as the credited name, the common name will change to Patrick A. Stewart, but at present, this BY is needed. LOL I went through the same 87 pages, it was not my idea of fun either. But I figured if someone validated the resuls it would help all in the long run. I really do wish you could download the CLT results to a CSV file so you could easily evaluate them in Excel or other tools. It would sure take a lot less time. Paging throuhg all of that causes errors too. Just look at this example, I only saw 5 titles to your 6. With how innacurate the current pointing and clicking is it is easy to miss one or two. | | | | Last edited: by Scooter1836 |
| | Registered: March 16, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | What about actually confirming against title credits, and not just relying on CLT results? This change has a major impact, and I want to make sure it's not erroneous, otherwise, we're going to end up going back and forth on it like we did for Kathy Bates and Lance Henriksen.  |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Have a common name thread going right now.
So far it is Patrick A. (2) Patrick Alexander (1) Patrick (5) with 1 left. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Matt Cole
Porn Actor
BY=1977
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=mattcole/gender=m/matt-cole.htm
http://www.alsgaypornstars.com/mattcole.html
Self
BY=?
Viva la Bam
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1836517/
Profile Contribution Approved Aug 4 2012 1:38PM | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Mark Donovan
Actor
BY=1968
Black Books
The Dark is Rising
In Bruges
Love Soup
The Seeker
Shaun Of The Dead
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0233025/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Donovan
http://www.tv.com/mark-donovan/person/125039/summary.html
Porn Actor
BY=?
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=markdonovan/gender=m/mark-donovan.htm
Profile Contribution Approved Aug 4 2012 1:38PM | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Randy White
Actor
BY=1953
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0925351/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_White_%28American_football%29
http://www.champions4champions.org/Randy_White.php
Porn Actor
BY=?
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=randywhite/gender=m/randy-white.htm
Profile Contribution Approved Aug 4 2012 1:38PM | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Jim Kelly
Actor
1960
Necessary Roughness (1991)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0446486/
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.aspx?player_id=112
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kelly
Actor
1946
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0446485/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Kelly_(martial_artist)
http://www.usadojo.com/biographies/jim-kelly.htm
1960 Contributed
1946 already approved.
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=250804&PageNum=59&messageID=1365605#M1365605
Profile Contribution Approved Aug 4 2012 1:38PM | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | Josh Gates
BY=1977
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1239433/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Gates
http://destinationtruth.wikia.com/wiki/Josh_Gates
Actor
BY=1985
Blood Out
Carjacked
The Mortician
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3297188/
http://www.moviestation.org/actor/313723/Josh-Gates
Both BY's contributed
Profile Contribution Approved Aug 4 2012 1:38PM | | | | Last edited: by CubbyUps |
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