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Madonna plans remake of Casablanca
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The mind boggles. Who on earth do they have in mind for the character of Rick (please don't even answer this question, it might make me puke).


With Madonna making this movie, they might just dig Bogey up...
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Hey if the crazy freak wants to make a movie that NO ONE will go see and spend millions of her dollars.  I see no reason why she shouldn't be aloud to.  Until stupidity is painful entertainers like her will make folleys like this one.  In my opinion though this is just another way the left is trying to tear down our soldiers in Iraq.  Yes I said it, Madonna is a member of the the left as are many others in the motion picture field.


Someone must be kidding!!! I got two negatives for my above post.  Just because some of you do not agree with me, this is a ridiculous call for a negative.  The lurkers strike again...
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Hey if the crazy freak wants to make a movie that NO ONE will go see and spend millions of her dollars.  I see no reason why she shouldn't be aloud to.  Until stupidity is painful entertainers like her will make folleys like this one.  In my opinion though this is just another way the left is trying to tear down our soldiers in Iraq.  Yes I said it, Madonna is a member of the the left as are many others in the motion picture field.


Someone must be kidding!!! I got two negatives for my above post.  Just because some of you do not agree with me, this is a ridiculous call for a negative.  The lurkers strike again...


I don't think they were lurkers...probably leftists .
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Hey if the crazy freak wants to make a movie that NO ONE will go see and spend millions of her dollars.  I see no reason why she shouldn't be aloud to.  Until stupidity is painful entertainers like her will make folleys like this one.  In my opinion though this is just another way the left is trying to tear down our soldiers in Iraq.  Yes I said it, Madonna is a member of the the left as are many others in the motion picture field.


Someone must be kidding!!! I got two negatives for my above post.  Just because some of you do not agree with me, this is a ridiculous call for a negative.  The lurkers strike again...


I don't think they were lurkers...probably leftists .


Thanks for the laugh Max I needed that...
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Hey if the crazy freak wants to make a movie that NO ONE will go see and spend millions of her dollars.  I see no reason why she shouldn't be aloud to.  Until stupidity is painful entertainers like her will make folleys like this one.  In my opinion though this is just another way the left is trying to tear down our soldiers in Iraq.  Yes I said it, Madonna is a member of the the left as are many others in the motion picture field.


Someone must be kidding!!! I got two negatives for my above post.  Just because some of you do not agree with me, this is a ridiculous call for a negative.  The lurkers strike again...

Well, I wouldn't (and didn't) give you a negative for that, but my guess would be that they didn't give them because they disagreed with your opinion, but because they felt that calling someone "crazy freak" for remaking a classic was inappropriate.
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Perhaps to you, gunnar, but I find it a perfectly acceptable reference to Madonna, I might not put it the way lord did but still. I think the woman is a tad off center.

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Perhaps to you, gunnar, but I find it a perfectly acceptable reference to Madonna, I might not put it the way lord did but still. I think the woman is a tad off center.

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I didn't say that I felt it was inappropriate. I said that my guess was that those who had given a negative thought it was.
"A tad off center" on the other hand seems a bit of an understatement... 
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Hey if the crazy freak wants to make a movie that NO ONE will go see and spend millions of her dollars.  I see no reason why she shouldn't be aloud to.  Until stupidity is painful entertainers like her will make folleys like this one.  In my opinion though this is just another way the left is trying to tear down our soldiers in Iraq.  Yes I said it, Madonna is a member of the the left as are many others in the motion picture field.


Someone must be kidding!!! I got two negatives for my above post.  Just because some of you do not agree with me, this is a ridiculous call for a negative.  The lurkers strike again...

Well, I wouldn't (and didn't) give you a negative for that, but my guess would be that they didn't give them because they disagreed with your opinion, but because they felt that calling someone "crazy freak" for remaking a classic was inappropriate.


I still think it is more likely that it is one of the two who normally give me a negative when they disagree with my opinion...
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I still think it is more likely that it is one of the two who normally give me a negative when they disagree with my opinion...

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No, no, no, no, NO! Absolutely not! Nein. Nei. Nej.

*Please Madonna - let it it be, let it be*

Casablanca might not be my ulitmate favourite, but I still love this film with all my heart. It's part of history and I would prefer it stayed that way - not ruined by Madonna or anyone else.
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It's part of history and I would prefer it stayed that way - not ruined by Madonna or anyone else.

I don't get this mentality. Don't get me wrong, I feel no need to see a remake of Casablanca, but I don't understand how one could ruin the original. It will always be there, regardless of how many remakes are done.

As an aside, there's plenty of remakes which have proven superior to their predecessors. I highly doubt this one will be one of those, just thought I'd point it out.

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"Say it ain't so, Joe!"
Actually there are only a few remakes that come out fairly decent.
The remakes of "The Searchers", "Stagecoach" & "The Wiz" were pretty much bad to watch, to name a few.
"I am Legend" which is a remake of "Omega Man" and "Last Man on Earth" came out a pretty good film!
Unfortunatly, when I hear of Madonna starring in "Casablanca" , I am reminded of her in "Who's that Girl". Not many singers can become a decent actor.
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Actually there are only a few remakes that come out fairly decent.

That depends entirely on your definition of "a few"... here's a number of remakes that were pretty good:

- The Wizard of Oz
- The Maltese Falcon
- Ben-Hur
- His Girl Friday
- The Man Who Knew Too Much
- An Affair to Remember

Those are some older movies we today consider classics, but which were actually remakes. Then there's some more contemporary stuff too which I think we can agree were worthwhile efforts:

- Scarface
- The Departed
- Cape Fear
- 3:10 to Yuma
- Fatal Attraction
- The Fly
- Twelve Monkeys

Lots of titles could be added to these lists without trying too hard.

Now, granted, for every worthwhile remake I drag up it wouldn't be too hard to list several not so worthwhile ones.

I'll also happily concede that the predecessors most worhwhile remakes are made from leave some to be desired, and hence there's the room for improvement which allowed the remakes to overshadow the originals and become classics.

But the point is that if studios and filmmakers were to have a staunch "no remake" policy, we wouldn't have old classics like The Wizard of Oz and Ben-Hur, or contemporary high quality movies like Scarface and Twelve Monkeys.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but it's a pet peeve of mine when people automatically react with disdain whenever a remake is announced.

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it's a pet peeve of mine when people automatically react with disdain whenever a remake is announced.

I think this happens mostly when a classic movie is up for a remake. And by "classic" I don't mean just "old".

Also, I wouldn't automatically call something a remake just because it's based on the same book (or whatever) as another film. A remake, IMHO, is based on the basically same screenplay as an earlier film. So, I'm not sure I would consider the 1939 Wizard of Oz a remake of the 1925 silent version, for example.

His Girl Friday is more iffy. Although both it and The Front Page are both based on a play, they are indeed more similar than the Oz films. And Charles Lederer who wrote the screenplay for His Girl Friday was also involved - although to a lesser extent - in The Front Page. So that one I would probably consider a remake.
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it's a pet peeve of mine when people automatically react with disdain whenever a remake is announced.

I think this happens mostly when a classic movie is up for a remake.

Sure, I can agree with that. But the question of "Why?" still remains. Why be upset that someone is remaking a classic? The original will still be around to enjoy, so I don't see the big deal.

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A remake, IMHO, is based on the basically same screenplay as an earlier film.

Well, this would automatically disqualify a huge number of remakes from being considered remakes... I don't think I can agree with this definition. If they're not remakes, what are they? I suppose the newfangled Hollywoodism "re-imagining" could apply, but that's just semantics in my opinion.

By that definition not even The Man Who Knew Too Much, one of the most classic examples of a remake, is actually a remake. The plot is very similar, but the script itself is quite different with many locations, characters and dialogue not matching between the two. The newer version is even 40+ minutes longer than the original. Yet Hitchcock considered it a remake.

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It's part of history and I would prefer it stayed that way - not ruined by Madonna or anyone else.

I don't get this mentality. Don't get me wrong, I feel no need to see a remake of Casablanca, but I don't understand how one could ruin the original. It will always be there, regardless of how many remakes are done.

As an aside, there's plenty of remakes which have proven superior to their predecessors. I highly doubt this one will be one of those, just thought I'd point it out.

KM


I didn't say that remakes automatically are a bad thing, it's just that sometimes it's better to just let things be.

Of course it will always be there, but it will always be compared to that bad movie (and no - I doubt Madonna will ever be able to make a good movie, not like that) Madonna once made. It ruins the repuation for one thing - and it's sort of disrespectful in my eyes. She obviously is milking this to gain her own interests, instead of honouring  the dead. I might think differently about an other director/actress/actor, but not someone like Madonna. She's a great artist, but not one for the movies. I'm afraid she'll make a modern love-story thingy with a twist of the old. Well, it doesn't work for me.

And not to speak of the actors. Good luck in finding a suiting  actor and actress in the main parts.

If you don't agree with me, fine. This is my opinion. You don't have to like it. I love the old classics, though I love new films too. But I think there's a limit, well, in Madonna's case anyway. You might even think my reasons for saying this are quite mad, well - I don't. The history of the film industry is as important to me as new technology. And Casablanca is a part of that. Not just in itself, but all the films from that time. And I'm not really pleased with the way many of the films today has turned out to be. In my eyes, they've lost their soul. It's all the same now, these days, films from Hollywood I mean. Doesn't mean I don't like some of them, but they don't really impress me as much as the old ones do. And if Madonna makes just another chick-flick, then what's the use? We don't really need another film like that, not when I know the original is ten times better.
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