This has been discussed numerous times and the answer is STILL NO to Supervising Producer. A supervising Producer unlike a Supervising Art directorm Sound Editor or whatever is a very junior Producer he is NOT the head of ALL the Poroducers. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That has been the ansawwer for THREE YEARS and is STILL the answer. And the excuse that they re not excluyded is simply a cowpie comment made by a user whoi wants to TWIST the Rules.

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A supervising Producer unlike a Supervising Art directorm Sound Editor or whatever is a very junior Producer he is NOT the head of ALL the Poroducers.
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Totally Wrong!!!!!  Try doing some research before making totally false assertions with such unfounded conviction!

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A supervising Producer unlike a Supervising Art directorm Sound Editor or whatever is a very junior Producer he is NOT the head of ALL the Poroducers.
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Totally Wrong!!!!!  Try doing some research before making totally false assertions with such unfounded conviction!

I have, Hal. you need to ;learn about the film business more.

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Skip,

Just read this Bio and tell me again that a Supervising Producer is a junior position to a Producer:

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A supervising Producer unlike a Supervising Art directorm Sound Editor or whatever is a very junior Producer he is NOT the head of ALL the Poroducers.
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Totally Wrong!!!!!  Try doing some research before making totally false assertions with such unfounded conviction!

I have, Hal. you need to ;learn about the film business more.

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See my post above.

You clearly do not know as much about the film industry as you think you do! 

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A supervising Producer unlike a Supervising Art directorm Sound Editor or whatever is a very junior Producer he is NOT the head of ALL the Poroducers.

Sorry Skip, you're wrong about a supervising producer being a junior producer. Taken from the Producers Guild of America: A Supervising Producer supervises one or more producers in the performance of some or all of his/her/their producer functions, on single or multiple productions, either in place of, or subject to the overriding authority of an Executive Producer.

I agree however that we shouldn't list supervising producers. They are not performing the same job as a producer

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I guess i know more thasn you, halk. since Supervising producer ONLY supervises thise below Producer and EP pay grade. He supervisies assciates, line producers, etc. Buty thasnk you for playing anyway.

Do you have anything to back up these ridiculous claims? I do have some to back up my point of view:

The Producers Guild of America, which nicely lists the production credits in order of importance and explains a bit about it.

What do Supervising Producers do?: "A Supervising Producer supervises one or more producers in the performance of some or all of his/her/their producer functions, on single or multiple productions, either in place of, or subject to the overriding authority of an Executive Producer."

And of course the bio for Merri Howard as supplied by Hal, which explains how she was promoted to supervising producer. That hardly makes it a "junior" position.

Look: I can't help it if you fail to comprehend what a supervising producer is. Just don't try to force your personal preference onto the database. It's NOT a "junior position", the rules don't prohibit entering supervising producers at all, and we enter the "supervising" people in every other crew segment. There really is no reason to handle producers any differently. I'm afraid that what you *think* someone's pay grade is, doesn't really affect how we deal with them in DVD Profiler. Again: I've supplied sources to back up my claims - can you?

Judging by the extensive explanation on the Producers Guild of America site that I linked to, I'd venture a guess and say that you're confused with the "Production Supervisor/Manager". That one might more closely fit your description, but a supervising producer is just what it says: he's a step above the "regular" producers, and that's why we track him, just like we track supervising art directors, supervising re-recording mixers, supervising sound editors and the like.

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I guess i know more thasn you, halk. since Supervising producer ONLY supervises thise below Producer and EP pay grade. He supervisies assciates, line producers, etc. Buty thasnk you for playing anyway.

Do you have anything to back up these ridiculous claims? I do have some to back up my point of view:

The Producers Guild of America, which nicely lists the production credits in order of importance and explains a bit about it.

What do Supervising Producers do?: "A Supervising Producer supervises one or more producers in the performance of some or all of his/her/their producer functions, on single or multiple productions, either in place of, or subject to the overriding authority of an Executive Producer."

And of course the bio for Merri Howard as supplied by Hal, which explains how she was promoted to supervising producer. That hardly makes it a "junior" position.

Look: I can't help it if you fail to comprehend what a supervising producer is. Just don't try to force your personal preference onto the database. It's NOT a "junior position", the rules don't prohibit entering supervising producers at all, and we enter the "supervising" people in every other crew segment. There really is no reason to handle producers any differently. I'm afraid that what you *think* someone's pay grade is, doesn't really affect how we deal with them in DVD Profiler. Again: I've supplied sources to back up my claims - can you?

Judging by the extensive explanation on the Producers Guild of America site that I linked to, I'd venture a guess and say that you're confused with the "Production Supervisor/Manager". That one might more closely fit your description, but a supervising producer is just what it says: he's a step above the "regular" producers, and that's why we track him, just like we track supervising art directors, supervising re-recording mixers, supervising sound editors and the like.

And STOP trying to FORCE your persomal preference, Tim. Something you do all to frequyently. Yes, I have researched by my freiends in the film business, Tim, who have told me precisley what a Supervising Producer IS and IS NOT.

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