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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: If the filmmakers give a credit such as "From a Story By...", then they apparently felt a need to credit that person. I've even seen a credit such as "Based on an Idea by...". Again, if the filmmakers see fit to give this person a credit for their idea, then why would we want to leave it out of DVDP as an OMB credit?
It seems to me that OMB should be allowed a very wide interpretation, not a narrow one.
I agree with this (especially the bolded part). Me too | | | Cor |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,750 |
| Posted: | | | | I also agree. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: The unfortunate conclusion is that without guidance from Invelos, we're simply stuck with different users handling this in different ways. I know this is an old topic, but Invelos just approved a contribution changing the film credit "From an Original Story by" from OMB to Story By, in spite of a "no" vote referring back to this thread. So I'd say the "official word" is that From a Story By is Story By and not OMB. --------------- |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | One screener approving one profile...any profile really...does not constitute an official word. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: October 30, 2011 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,870 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
Quote: <snip> ...but it should at least be hypothetically publishable... <snip>
How would we possibly be able to determine such a thing?
If the filmmakers give a credit such as "From a Story By...", then they apparently felt a need to credit that person. I've even seen a credit such as "Based on an Idea by...". Again, if the filmmakers see fit to give this person a credit for their idea, then why would we want to leave it out of DVDP as an OMB credit?
It seems to me that OMB should be allowed a very wide interpretation, not a narrow one. I agree with Hal as well. There is nothing that staes the original work has to be published. |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: One screener approving one profile...any profile really...does not constitute an official word. I disagree, as the screeners are Invelos personnel. --------------- |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | I think the best way to determine how this shoudl be handled isn't to guess based on the words, but look at some real-life examples of the credit and see how they correspond to the concepts the different credit categories are supposed to represent. BTW, the category is original media by, which I think means the original had to exist in some medium to qualify. It's a real stretch to call a plot pitch a medium. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: One screener approving one profile...any profile really...does not constitute an official word. I disagree, as the screeners are Invelos personnel. Human personnel who make mistakes or interpret the rules differently. I have, on more than one occasion, seen Ken reverse a screeners decision because they interpreted the rule incorrectly. You are, of course, free to disagree, but I still consider that an OMB credit. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: BTW, the category is original media by, No, the category is original material by. Quote: which I think means the original had to exist in some medium to qualify. It's a real stretch to call a plot pitch a medium. The word 'medium' was specifically removed from this credit so that this restriction no longer applies. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: One screener approving one profile...any profile really...does not constitute an official word. I disagree, as the screeners are Invelos personnel.
--------------- The "screeners" accept almost anything and everything put before them. If we're going to start saying that what's accepted by the "screeners" is official word, we're in a crap ton of trouble. | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. | | | Last edited: by Merrik |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,852 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Human personnel who make mistakes. You are, of course, free to disagree, but I still consider that an OMB credit. I do to, but apparently Invelos either does not, or does not care one way or the other. My suspicion is the latter, which is why I vote and contribute so infrequently. --------------- |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Anything not fixed in a medium is immaterial anyway. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Anything not fixed in a medium is immaterial anyway. I don't thinks so as one of the reasons the credit was changed is for a credit of "Based on an Idea by." | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | How do you know that the Idea isn't written down, it most likely is and therefore materialized. It isn't published but that isn't necessary for Invelos purposes. Without the idea there wouldn't even be a film to start with. Needless to say that I completely agree with TheMadMartian | | | Cor |
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