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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDiscostu
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This doesn't happen very often, but at the moment I am really glad that I live in Germany 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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Quoting ateo357:
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Ncis: Naval Criminal Investigative Service
Csi: New York and all other CSI titles.
Abcs of Death
Jag
Cbs Salutes Lucy: The First 25 Years

Brilliant


It doesn't fix the ABCs of Death one, but sounds like the simplified rule needs a further point explaining it doesn't apply to abbreviations. If the automated conversion tool used on submission uses the same functionality then it won't work of course.

Given the discussions I can't blame Ken for trying to simplify things, but it needed a bit more thought before implementation.
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Quoting scotthm:
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There is obviously a major difference between creating a profile from scratch and performing minor tweaking of an existing profile.

Creating a profile from scratch needs about 5 minutes. Verifying an existing one, data by data, then modifying the numerous spelling mistakes in names and correcting the overview takes at least as much time. But with the second solution, experience shows that systematically some errors have not been seen...
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Refinement continues, without implementing exceptions for specific titles.  Most of the examples here no longer apply to the current filter.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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Apologies if it's something you've done but takes a while to go through, but the title tool in the rules still capitalises the examples given incorrectly.

People are already submitting corrections based on the tool.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Quoting Lithurge:
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Apologies if it's something you've done but takes a while to go through, but the title tool in the rules still capitalises the examples given incorrectly.

People are already submitting corrections based on the tool.


Examples?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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Ahh ok it looks like a misreading of the way the functionality works.

For abbreviations it relies on you entering correct data to get the correct result, e.g. if you enter NCIS it will return NCIS, but if you enter Ncis it will return Ncis.

It does have the potential for misleading people into submitting incorrect data as it will correct the capitlisation on normal titles, so people may not understand how it works with abbreviations. So you may want to consider flagging abbreviations specifically as I suggested earlier.

The A Team is only an issue if the release does not include a - between a and team.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Also, if you enter nCiS, it will return nCiS.  In either case, the contribution will be declined.
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Ken...

Is this something that needs to be adjusted?...

As Above So Below


Regions AllRegions AllABC

Released: 12/2/2014

Widescreen 1.85





The filter wants to change it to
As Above so Below

The only ways I see it mentioned anywhere... online... in credits or what have you is....

As Above So Below

or

As Above, So Below

The box nor the credits support the comma.
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Registered: March 16, 2007
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So, I'm seeing a LOT of contributions only changing the capitalization of words in a title, and I have to ask, do these contributions meet the standard set out in this rule:

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Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database.
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I would say any 'correct' change is of value, but these have been ridiculous.

Honestly, I think this filter and these new capitalisation rules should just be removed and something called common sense should be put in place.

I never noticed it as an issue before. Never saw any back and forth with title capitalisation.
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Quoting Leiterfluid:
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So, I'm seeing a LOT of contributions only changing the capitalization of words in a title, and I have to ask, do these contributions meet the standard set out in this rule:

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Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database.


Well if you would fully quote and read that rule you would have your answer.... see especially the sentence I put in bold...

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Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database. For example, contributions that only re-order the information within a certain section should not be submitted. These unnecessary changes are highlighted in the rules. Please do not make a separate contribution for them; however, they may be acceptable if you are making wider corrections to a profile.


The rule itself says these unnecessary changes are highlighted in the rules. So is title capitalization highlighted in the rules as not to be done by themselves? Nope... so they are correct to put through alone per the rules.
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Quoting Flåklypa:
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But (since you mention it) I would take the cover as a second or third source (if it could not be established from the places I wrote) every time over a invented capitalization by a filter.

I'll let you in on a little known secret -- once the profile is in your local database you can modify the capitalization (and even spelling) of the title in ways that might surprise you.  Try it some time.  You can even lock the title field so that subsequent refreshes of the profile will not undo all your hard work achieving title perfection.

You'll be amazed at how trivial all this will seem once the epiphany strikes.

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Quoting rdodolak:
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Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting Flåklypa:
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But (since you mention it) I would take the cover as a second or third source (if it could not be established from the places I wrote) every time over a invented capitalization by a filter.

I'll let you in on a little known secret -- once the profile is in your local database you can modify the capitalization (and even spelling) of the title in ways that might surprise you.  Try it some time.  You can even lock the title field so that subsequent refreshes of the profile will not undo all your hard work achieving title perfection.

You'll be amazed at how trivial all this will seem once the epiphany strikes.

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Do you mean to tell me that you don't just love snarky sarcasm?
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Do you mean to tell me that you don't just love snarky sarcasm?

No pain, no gain.

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorLeiterfluid
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Quoting Leiterfluid:
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So, I'm seeing a LOT of contributions only changing the capitalization of words in a title, and I have to ask, do these contributions meet the standard set out in this rule:

Quote:
Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database.


Well if you would fully quote and read that rule you would have your answer.... see especially the sentence I put in bold...

Quote:
Make sure your contributions add significant value to the database. For example, contributions that only re-order the information within a certain section should not be submitted. These unnecessary changes are highlighted in the rules. Please do not make a separate contribution for them; however, they may be acceptable if you are making wider corrections to a profile.


The rule itself says these unnecessary changes are highlighted in the rules. So is title capitalization highlighted in the rules as not to be done by themselves? Nope... so they are correct to put through alone per the rules.


can you point to one example in the rules in which an item is "highlighted" as an unnecessary change?
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