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Peanuts: Ultimate TV Specials Collection
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I had a no vote for altering the title of this set.  To quote the no vote "from rules: The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections."  I always read that as meaning collections such as The Criterion Collection, not to place part of the title of a collection of shorts into that field.  Putting "Ultimate TV Specials Collection" in the edition field, and leaving the title to simply be Peanuts feels so wrong to me, but I'll withdraw if that's the consensus.

So, do you think that "Ultimate TV Specials Collection" goes in the title field, or the edition field?

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"Peanuts: Ultimate TV Specials Collection" is the Title, as far as I'm concerned.

It's similar to something like "Generic Title: Seasons 1-3". You wouldn't put "Seasons 1-3" into the Edition field.
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Quoting GreyHulk:
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"Peanuts: Ultimate TV Specials Collection" is the Title, as far as I'm concerned.

It's similar to something like "Generic Title: Seasons 1-3". You wouldn't put "Seasons 1-3" into the Edition field.


I would argue it's not similar to it, since the rules specifically state collections go as editions and don't say anything about seasons doing the same.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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So by that reasoning the title of these sets is simply Looney Tunes.  (There are 6 volumes of Goldens and 3 volumes of Platinums)




And this one is simply Betty Boop (There are 4 of these)


And this one is Buster Keaton


And this one The Marx Brothers


And this one Stan Laurel & Oliver Hardy
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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It's always been my understanding that the edition field was to indicate that a release was part of a collection, such as The Criterion Collection, rather than that it was a collection

For example:

The Criterion Collection



Global Lens Collection



Archive Collection



World Class Cinema Collection



None of these can be part of the title, the Collection is clearly separate.  Unlike the previous examples, where the titles clearly indicate that what is enclosed is itself a collection, rather than a part of one - or that it is the subsequent volume of an ongoing series.
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"Ultimate TV Specials Collection" definitely seems like part of the box set title to me. In this instance it's hinting as to what the product actually is, not which version of the product it is. If I were to see that on the shelf, I'd assume that it was a set of most or all the Peanuts specials, whereas if I were to see This is Spinal Tap: Criterion Collection, I'd assume the movie was the same as other releases, only with the Criterion audio, video, bonus features, etc.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus Six
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"Ultimate TV Specials Collection" does not mean it's part of a collection, it IS the collection, hence the title of the entire set. However, if there are child profiles attached they can carry over the collection to their edition fields according to the rule "for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections."
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I'm genuinely baffled how and why 7 people voted this to be the edition instead of the title...
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An Edition is to differentiate between otherwise identical releases.

For example, "Anniversary Edition", "Special Collector's Edition" or "Rental Copy".

A "Collection" is basically a Box Set. You wouldn't, or shouldn't, put "Box Set" in the Edition field.
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To go further, if there were more than one version of the "Peanuts: Ultimate TV Specials Collection", for example: "Limited Snoopy Statue Edition", then you would use the Edition field for that.
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Its all about context, was it contiguous or was it clearly separate from the title.

It reminds me of the discussion on "3D" on the front cover, when Ken Cole confirmed its correct usage in the cover title. For me, the edition needs to be clearly segregated from the title.

That's why I voted YES to title.
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I see this is now OBE, but I agree with you. Unfortunately, some contributors what the database to reflex how they catalog their collection rather than what the actual rules state.
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I see this is now OBE, but I agree with you. Unfortunately, some contributors what the database to reflex how they catalog their collection rather than what the actual rules state.


Yeah like people who insist features on the Blu-ray of a UHD/Blu-ray combo belong on the main profile even though that's not what the rules say because that's how they catalog their collection 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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Yeah like people who insist features on the Blu-ray of a UHD/Blu-ray combo belong on the main profile even though that's not what the rules say because that's how they catalog their collection 


That's not what the rules state. When a release has the same film but on different media types, a child profile for the inferior media type is optional. All features are supposed to be included in the main profile, just like how you include the different media types in the main profile. When it comes to audio and video formats then the main profile only uses those from the highest resolution format. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornimrod85
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and what would you add here ?
I added "Lionsgate Limited 25th Anniversary Uncut Version" as edition


the other movies of this collection only have "Lionsgate Limited" as editon, because that it's what its called, but this edition has a bit more on the cover
https://lionsgatelimited.com/products/american-psycho-25th-anniversary-4k-collectors-edition-corrected?variant=43954025594991
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