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Well, after looking at the posts here it appears that there won't be a future of the community if Invelos closes down for good.
It was worth a shot.

(I think it's a good thing for people to download a copy of the program and the OnlineList.dod file to ensure that one can continue to use the program.) Perhaps even your registration key too.
Who knows what could happen in the future? Hard drive crash, buying a new computer, put the program on another computer.
It sure wouldn't hurt.
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Quoting GSyren:
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Backup is one way of sharing profiles. But if you just want to share single profiles, there is another, rather unsung, method.

Use File / Create Profile File to create a profile file from the selected profile. Then the recipient just has to open that file, and Profiler will use it either to add that profile, or - if it is an existing profile - to update the existing profile from it (with the same update page as if you downloaded it from the online).

Aha! That's the one I was trying to remember in a previous post!

Yeah, I guess in theory it could be possible to create an online database of such profile files, if Invelos shuts down it's servers. In practice I think it would be too little to late. There would be too few interested users to build anything like a useful database. And of course it wouldn't provide anything like the features of Invelos' database anyway.


No it wouldn't, but it is at least something.
Perhaps instead of profile by profile, what about just sharing manual profiles for movies/tv series seasons.
That way we'd have to share just one profile for a movie such as Jurassic Park instead of dozens of profiles for the same movie.
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Quoting eommen:
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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...Personally I don't think that it's a bad thing to come up with some sort of backup plan so that the community can keep in touch with each other. Now whether or not that means trading profiles or just keeping in touch is up in the air...


AFAIK This DVD Collectors Online forum is also still present -- though not very much active currently, I think. It is an option to keep in touch with one another.
It was started at the end of the Intervocative years of DVDprofiler (remember those  ) and a burst of life every time Invelos seems a bit in an hibernation state.

As for the original issue of this thread: is there so much that needs change? Yes, the request list is long enough, but realistically I think there are no real burning issues. Which is one reason to explain the current quietness.
With dvd usage declining thanks to Netflix and similar options, we are a smaller group. Probably not really "niche" yet, but still... Likely the uptake of new subscriptions has slowed down, which would well explain the reduced presence of Ken in the fora. He needs to look after some form of income, as we have all to.

Finally, many topics seem recurring items. Even this one, which seems to happen every time the latest update is about a year old    .


Thanks for the forum link. I'll look at it asap.

In regards to Netflix and things like it, personally never used either. Heck I don''t even use digital codes either. I have no use for them.

As for being a smaller community. I wonder if it come down to not having one main profile for each movie instead of having multiple profiles for the same movie. One can have the same movie in their database, due to different formats or editions, and it's very likely that each profile will be different. And one can go and try to update those profiles, but which profile to choose that is the best to copy from. Then contribute it to have others not like your changes. It's all rather frustrating to some.

So people just edit what they want locally and keep it local. So contributions decline.
Newer releases missing children profiles, even ones that have been out for months.
Box sets that should have children, have none.
Even though I use birth years, fake and real, it's also a lot of work to go through profiles. I mean how many approved birth years are now in the database? Hundreds, thousands?? That's a lot to go through. The sheer number likely turns off some to not even bother.

Also when someone has a problem with a profile and asks about it in the forum, it's a good chance that there won't be a definitive answer. So the user does what they think is best and contributes and perhaps gets no votes and it gets declined. So they figure, why bother and stops contributing.

How long ago was it that Ken said that he was working on a new linking system for cast/crew?
Nothing but crickets on that since.

All of these things can turn off people from contributing and either just downloads every single updated profile and goes with the flow or they do their best and keep their hard work locally. Either way, not contributing.
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I recently got Season 1 of Pawn Stars and going through it I was wondering how to do the cast for the main guys.

During the opening there is no text credits, but Rick says "I'm Rick Harrison and this is my Pawn Shop. I work here with my old man, and my son Big Hoss......"

Going through several of the episodes and during the show they are credited with just a single name, such as Chumlee or Corey and Old Man.
All that's credited in the end credits is the crew.

So a couple of questions.
1. How are they actually credited in the other seasons and/or dvd compilations?
2. What is the proper way to credit them?
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Quoting specise_8472:
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I will keep using this, even if the worst happens.
What other offerings have an API that allows users to create their own plugins?

So if for some reasons out of Ken's control, this folds at least I can still use the program and add profiles from scratch.


Sure one could do that and if worse happens that's what I'll do too.
However, it would be much easier if we could still share profiles with each other via some other website/forum.
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Personally, I have no where else I want to go.


Ditto.

But I think some are a tad scared about what's happening behind the scenes.
I've been here years and I can remember when Ken was posting on the forums on what seemed like a daily basis. Now, as others have pointed out, he doesn't and only updates the program.

I think some are worrying about it, and perhaps rightfully so.

Personally I don't think that it's a bad thing to come up with some sort of backup plan so that the community can keep in touch with each other. Now whether or not that means trading profiles or just keeping in touch is up in the air.

For now, I think that it might be a good idea to choose if one of us should host a site/forum in case the worse happens or a public forum that already exists. If the latter I would pick the blu-ray.com forums.
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We have one for movies, would anyone be interested in doing this for tv series too?
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Quoting Assassin:
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There is still no master translation source, there are no future plans whatsoever, looks like more and more people (including me a little bit) take a small step back because they


Perhaps another reason some take a step back and not contribute that much is that with the recent update they simply don't understand the new features because the rules haven't been updated. Personally I think the rules should have been updated Before the update was released. Even before contributions were enabled for the update.

Second even for those that do, perhaps they don't like it that we still don't have a one movie per all profiles approach. So one could have the same movie multiple times in their database and yet have different cast/crew or other data in each of the profiles.

Still don't have a good way to identify people that share the same with others but don't have a known birth date. So the CLT just bunches all of them together, and unless one knows for sure one has to also either lump them all together locally or go by another database (which itself may not be accurate either).
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Ah found it, this file.
OnlineList.dod

"Download the file by right-clicking on the download link below and selecting "Save Target As". Then, browse to your "My Documents" folder, then into "DVD Profiler" from there."

I've had where either the file gets corrupted or had to reinstall the program, and needed that file just to add dvds in.

So if it were possible to have an off dvdprofiler site (as backup) to download that for fellow users just in case.

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However, there is a built-in profile sharing mechanism already. Actually two of them: (1) you can restore selective profiles from a database backup, and (2) you can export / import a profile file


Sure, but if fellow users don't know where to share them what's the point.
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While it's a good thing to discuss, we never can tell what is happening behind the scenes. So much so that we can't predict when the worse could happen and the site goes down without any sort of warning. Of course that would mean that no updated profiles can be downloaded.

Thus why I think it's a good idea to plan for the worse and come up with some sort of plan for those that want to continue to share updated profiles with others.

Be it a dedicated website created by one of the members of the community or a forum on the web.

Just some sort of backup.
I would even go as far as having a way to download the onlineprofile file (forgot what it's called but it's needed just to be able to add profiles. It's a file that sometimes gets corrupted or whatever. Or one has to reinstall the program.
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Quoting Mad Rockatansky:
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A year later, I want to revive this thread...

Do you have news?

The feeling of abandonment on this site becomes more pressing...
It's really sad.


Well at least the site is still up and running.

Which sadly had me thinking, what to do if the site is no longer up. That the company folded up.

As a back up, perhaps the community should look into some sort of way to continue sharing profiles if the worst ever did happen.

One site that maybe a good site to use is the blu-ray.com forums.
(I'm not saying start doing that now, but to have an agreement of the community to where to post about dvdprofiler).
After all this could come with no warning at all...Look at what happened with the tvshowsondvd site. Just closed up and now just posts on facebook. But not everyone uses Facebook.
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The online does not show custom roles. CubbyUps is right. Also, one very big problem I have been telling invelos about for years about custom roles is this:

If you use custom roles and then update from a contribution, you will get duplicate names and roles, example.

John Smith ... Visual Effects and you change it to John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor, then later down the road someone updates the profile and you download that update, you will get John Smith ... Visual Effects in the original position you had your custom role and your John Smith ... Visual Effects Supervisor will be placed at the bottom of the Art section. It's an extreme pain the the A _ _ you either have to write down the changes and do them manually or go ahead and update the profile from the online and copy the custom roles from your duplicate to the new one or move your duplicates back where they belong and in both cases you will have to delete the duplicates.

Note: I keep all my Crew credits locked until I see which way I want to handle the update. Also, your online collection will show your custom roles, but not the online profile.

I really wish Ken would fix this.



Seen that too about the duplicates. Now I know what's causing it.

I wonder why Ken can't have the program ignore custom roles. Why have it set up where it ignores what you have locally anyway and put in a duplicate entry for the same person just because one is using a custom role for the standard role/credit.

On a somewhat related note, wish he'd also add where one can enable the ability to have the program ignore Fake Birth Years. It frankly gets a little annoying having to go through updated profiles and weed through highlighted changes which are only due to locally fake birth years.
Why not just have where any birth date that is 3000 or above is automatically ignored by both the program and the contribution page?
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Probably the only way to port over custom roles is from a saved backup, not via the download from online.
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I would like to have the ability to organize Features in whatever order I want to.

For example, I could organize them alphabetically or in importance to me (say I want commentary at the top and scene access at the bottom.)
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Robert Kent

Actor
BY=1908
DY=1955
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0448836/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kent_(actor)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/3387753/robert-kent
FYI: Alternate Names: Douglas Blackley, Doug Blackley, Douglas Bleckley. But CLT shows Robert Kent is his common name .


Actor
BY=?
Carny (1980)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0448837/

Contributed
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Mac Miller

Mac Miller

Actor
BY=1992
DY=2018
Scary Movie V
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5634993/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Miller
https://www.theringer.com/music/2018/9/7/17833622/mac-miller-obituary

Actor
BY=?
Surveillance
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2632524/

Contributed
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Zapped (2014)

Zoolander No. 2
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added new birth year

Jeff Hammond

Actor
BY=1972
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=jeffhammond/gender=m/jeff-hammond.htm

Self
BY=1956
TNA Against All Odds 2005
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1828967/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Hammond_(NASCAR)
https://playerswiki.com/jeff-hammond

Actor
BY=?
Breakout Kings: The Complete First Season
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3317959/

1972 Contributed
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Quoting T!M:
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Jim Taylor

Writer/Producer/Director
BY=1963
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Jim_Taylor_%28writer%29#cite_ref-pomona_0-0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Taylor_%28writer%29
http://www.amazon.com/Jim-Taylor/e/B001K7QNE4


Both IMDB as Wikipedia name 1962 as BY. The amazone link doesn't name a BY at all. I cam't find any other proof. So is there somebody who can confirm if 1962 or 1963 is the correct BY?

This is a tough one. The Amazon-link refers to an entirely different person named Jim Taylor, so that one doesn't help us. The eNotes-link doesn't give any information anymore. That leaves us with:

- https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0852591/
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Taylor_(writer)

IMDb says it's 1962, while Wikipedia lists both birth years:



Wikipedia links to this article from the Pomona College Magazine as a source for this birth year. That article is from spring 2005 and states that he's 42 at that time. That would lead to 1963, but it still depends on his actual birth date. So theoretically, either could be correct - short of someone contacting him somehow, there's no way of being sure. I do know that I have profiles for nine films with the 1963 BY accepted into it, and nothing really "hard" enough here to warrant a change to all of those, right?



I did find a Library of Congress entry for a Jim Taylor that states he was born in 1962.

http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n2008008811.html

but they used IMDB as their source.
"Sources

    found: I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry, 2007 (Jim Taylor, screenplay writer; film not viewed)
    found: Internet movie database, Feb. 6, 2008 (Jim Taylor; b. 1962 in Bellevue, Wash.; writer, director, producer)"

So does that change anything in favor of 1962?
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Needed Birth Years

Christine Nelson

Actress
BY=1960
DY=1982
The Great Muppet Caper
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/109597573/christine-elizabeth-nelson
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Christine_Nelson
http://patheticfacts.com/american-actresses-died-in-cystic-fibrosis.html

Actress
BY=1926
DY=1988
Batman: The Complete Television Series
The Bold Ones: The New Doctors
The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis
Send Me No Flowers
Two Minute Warning
Varietease
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0625241/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6947822/christine-nelson

Actress
BY=?
Ithaca
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4602584/

Actress
BY=?
Sabrina the Teenage Witch: The Fourth Season
Sabrina the Teenage Witch: The Fifth Season
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2322600/

Actress
BY=?
Starlet
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3767207/


Corrected first one.
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Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Season 1=Walter Jones
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: Season 2=Walter Jones
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Just 2, haven't jumped on the 4K wagon just yet.
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Quoting huskersports:
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Tom Brady (1977 - NFL quarterback, also married to Gisele Bundchen):
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5228/
http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/profile
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1530018/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

Tom Brady (???? - writer of 2 episodes of Hell on Wheels TV show):
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4553973/?ref_=tt_ov_wr#writer


Writer/Director/Actor
BY=?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0103744/
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Quoting AiAustria:
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Bill Johnson (1951)
Actor
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_%28actor%29
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424601


Bill Johnson (19??)
Producer, co-founder in Inferno Distribution which was formed with partner Jim Seibel in 2003.
Killing Them Softly, The Grey, The Experiment, The Lazarus Project
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0426440/


Bill Johnson (19??)
Make-Up Department
Flight, The Walking Dead, The Three Stooges
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424595/


Bill Johnson (19??)
Film Editor
He has edited episodes of Ally McBeal, Robbery Homicide Division, Karen Sisco, Kidnapped, Shark, The Beast and Entourage. He also edited episodes of The West Wing, House M.D. and Justified,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_%28editor%29
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424594/

... and another actor:

Bill Johnson (????): Actor; aka. William Johnson, William Patrick Johnson
Known for: Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, Water Horse, King Kong (2005), The Tommyknockers, Skin Deep and many TV material…
Documentation: IMDB as William Johnson (I), Common name thread
Actor:



Another one.
Both It's a Pleasure and Keep Your Powder Dry are in the CLT results.

Actor
BY=1916
DY=1957
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424591/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_(musical_theatre_actor)
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Blake Mitchell

Actress
BY=1962
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=bmitchell/gender=f/blake-mitchell.htm
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0593167/reference

Actor
BY=?
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=blakemitchell/gender=m/blake-mitchell.htm

Profile Contribution Approved Jan 18 2016  3:46PM


Actor
BY=1994
http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=blakemitchell/gender=m/blake-mitchell.htm
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