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Thanks for the replies people.

I think an 'empty' box set profile with four child profiles (one per film) is my preferred option too.
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Hello

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There're 37 options for purchasing related things! 
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Quick question.  I hope...

Just image if you will, a keep case with two, doubled sided discs in it. Each side has a separate feature film on it, (so four films in all).

Do we make a box set and then add each film as a separate child profile?  How do we indicate the double-sided nature of the discs in this case?

or

Make a box set and then two child 'sub' box-sets (one for each disc) and then one child profile containing both films to the relevant sub box set, (a bit like episodes for a TV series or a compilation of shorts)?

or

Make a box set and then two child 'sub' box-sets (one for each disc) and then two child profiles to each of these relevant sub box-sets, one for each film?  Again, how do we indicate the double-sided nature of the discs in this case?

or (dare I say it)

Something else.

I've seen a few different ways of doing this within existing profiles, so am not sure which is the best way to do them now.  Thanks people!
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Quoting T!M:
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Quoting primetime21:
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It seems to me that most disc have "Spanish" and "Castillian" Spanish which if I understand correct, is not the same at Catalonian which is an option.  I think people treat the two as the same sometimes and again if I understand correctly, Castillian and Catalonian are different.

This is true. "Castillian" should not be entered as "Catalonian". The question that remains is, when faced with both a "Spanish" and "Castillian" audio track, whether you would just call that second audio track "Spanish" again, or whether you'd label that as "Other". From what I've seen, "Castillian" is pretty consistently entered as "Spanish", so that's what I've been doing as well.


That's what I think I've been doing too.  Unfortunately it doesn't work for subtitles, because of how they work in the database.

Lots of interesting things about languages here that I didn't know before, so thanks for taking the time people.
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Has anyone ever created a coffee table book by using a report or created a report that one may like. I wanna create a book so I can inform guest that come over to my house on to what movies I own and all and not have to pull up the website nor show them my iPad.

Thanks


I really like this idea, it's a bit silly but kind of nice too.

I like the idea of one profile per page, but then I realise how thick and heavy that would be.  For my collection I'd need a book about 16" wide to hold them, a hefty tomb!  (I measured an ordinary new book with 250 pages in it of 'art-quality' paper and it's about three-quarter of an inch wide.)  If you wanted a book which you could remove, add or changes pages in, it would need to be even wider to accommodate that sort of spine/binding.

I have a decent sized collection and about 75% of my discs (so that's about 2,700) are stored in 'flight cases' with all the sleeves in A5 punched pockets; it takes 30 lever arch files to hold all the latter, which take up over 7' of shelf space.

As a compromise, I quite like the idea of a sort of electronic book that could sit in a tablet, that actually works like a magazine.  But even this doesn't have the speed of use and flexibility of a real book and that nice ability they have to flick through them.  Or something that would work like an e-book perhaps?

I guess I could have lots of smaller coffee table books, split into different categories somehow....  (Cue hours of fun trying to decide what those would be.)   

Maybe one page per profile just isn't feasible once a collection gets to a certain size?  (The cost of the printer ink alone...!)
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Quoting AiAustria:
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Catalonian, the second "Spanish" language is available.

If there is really a language, which is not available we have "other"...


Hello. The example that prompted my question has Audio Tracks for Spanish (Traditional Sort) 1 and Spanish (Traditional Sort) 2, but as my Spanish speaking ability is worse than my Klingon, I can't tell the difference.  Also, I recently saw a disc that had (I can't remember the exact wording but basically it was) Spanish for Spain and Spanish for South America, so the latter would suggest there're still two versions of Spanish as well as Catalonian. 

Seriously, life would be so much easier if no one working in films/TV was allowed to have the same name as anyone else ever who's also worked in films/TV; and everyone spoke English, (Traditional of course). 
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Hello.  Have question.  Need wisdom.

Some languages come in different 'versions', such as Spanish.

How do we deal with these with respect to the online database?

If there're two different Spanish audio tracks do we enter them separately, but call them both Spanish?

If there're two different sets of Spanish subtitles, we enter then as Spanish and Other, or just one as Spanish?

Thanks.
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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Just took new pictures today, they can be found here.


That looks so lovely and tidy.  Whatever I do I can't seem to make my room look anything other than Blockbusters used to on a Saturday night after all the drunks have been in!  Who does your dusting?  The tops of my cases seem to permanently have a layer of dust on them.
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Just noticed that the name of someone I've included in the details for a contribution I've made is too rude for Invelos.  It's been replaced with the somewhat silly "meanie-weanieo".

Anyone else ever come across this?  (I guess it's hard to compare details, as we can't actually put the names here.) 

Has it ever happened with a Title?
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Hello.  Thanks for your replies.  It does indeed look like one of things things that's been considered a few times but never really been resolved.

For myself, in my local database I list all the audio tracks available for either version once, T!M's "merge" variant that eliminates duplicates.  (I also do this for double packs that contain the same film on both BD and DVD, as I don't keep the DVD as an individual profile locally but like to have a record of what's on it anyway.)

If you only list the audio (and for that matter the subtitles) from the longest version, then you can end up with slightly inconsistent looking information, such as a Commentary ticked as a Feature but with no corresponding audio track. (In fact this is exactly what's happened with a contribution for "Ted" I submitted this morning that I didn't change the Audio for as it got me thinking about this).  We merge information like Features (and in fact most other things), so not to do the same for Audio (or subtitles) seems again a bit inconsistent.  I guess another alternative nowadays might be to list each version as a totally separate Alternative Version, effectively treating each as a separate film?

The more I think about this the more frustrated I get (I like things to be black and white) and I suspect it's just an example of a bigger issue in how the 'same' film is treated in the online database, whether it's different versions or the same versions on different media.  The original system based on UPC or Disc ID has generally worked well, but when we start to try to be more granular, the limitations and inconsistencies start to get in the way.

The world is full of 'lumpers' and 'splitters' and the two will never agree!
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Hello.

I can't imagine this hasn't been discussed before, but I can't seem to find anything in the rules or forum, sooo..

When there's more than one version of a movie on a disc (for example Theatrical and Extended Versions) that have different audio tracks, which are eligible for the online database? 

Thanks.
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I do have a suspicion that people maybe contribute less now because the Rules have become so out of date and looking through the forums for answers (if you can even work out how to do that effectively), just turns up a small group of people disagreeing over the interpretation of them.  As physical media has 'upgraded' and more and more examples of things that don't fit the Rules have been highlighted, it really has become difficult in a lot of cases to confidently contribute, especially if you haven't done it often.

Speaking for myself, I sometimes don't contribute updates I've made to my own local database, as some things are too contentious/unclear and I can't be bothered to waste my time and that of others with inaccurate contributions. I like clear instructions and for an increasingly larger number of DVDs etc, the Rules don't really provide this.
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Quoting iPatsa:
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And it just feels more fitting to have a 90s sitcom on DVD.


That's an interesting thought.  I've recently watched both Dirty Harry and Rocky on DVD and do remember thinking that the DVD quality somehow added to the grimy feel of the locations. However, not sure if this was me thinking clearly or just trying to justify not upgrading them to Blu-ray to save the money.

(I also have to admit though that I have very recently bought Rocky on Blu-ray, but haven't watched it yet.) 
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Yes I agree with you entirely.  Even pretty mainstream and popular films are quite often missing.  If certainly an issue that's getting more common I think.

And yes, the fact that actually most are there when I add a new film to my collection is still pretty cool.
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Where's the dissenting voices?!

Still, we'll have Star Trek Picard / Star Trek: Picard to think about at some point.

When I win the Lottery, a whole box set of Power Rangers is top of my buy list; like that one I think Shout! Factory released a few years ago. 
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Billy as Bookshelf (Uncredited) 


This is a good example of why uncredited credits can be so hard to pin down.  In this example, what's the reason Billy as Bookcase is more accurate than perhaps Billy as The Bookcase or Billy as A Bookcase, or even Billy as Itself or Billy as The/A White Bookcase (assuming Billy was white and not one of the other colours that IKEA offers)?  Do we really want to see hundreds of thousands of submissions ping-ponging between these sorts of options?  Also, can you imagine the issue once we include other furniture retailers, or indeed other companies and brands that sell furniture but also sell other items too?
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Quoting iPatsa:
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Quoting AndyEN:
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You're not supposed to use other sources directly, though of course you can use such other sources to see where the actor is in the movie.


Except for: "If there are no credits, the film's official site may be used as a source."

The question then is if these actors taken from an offical source should be marked as uncredited.


Yes, this is a good example where things feel a bit less clear.  I get the feeling people tend to not tick them as uncredited in these cases.
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We're contributing uncredited animals now?! 


? Hell yes.  Too many animals play key roles in movies and don't get so much as a mention in the credits. It's so speciesist.  Just because they don't have good union representation or taste good in a burger...

PS I'm vegan so I'm allowed to say stuff like that.
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Hello

Thanks to both of you.  That was my understanding as well.  I will endeavour to be more consistent with my own contributions in future.
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I still buy them, although only when I feel 'forced' too.

This means:

It isn't available on Blu-ray.
It isn't available digitally in HD.
The Blu-ray (or digital HD version) is 'stupidly expensive' in relation to how much I want the feature in HD.
It's very cheap and I'm not sure I'll like it much; so it's a sort of test viewing.
The Blu-ray has region compatibility issues; (this is less of an issue now as I have a multi-region BD player).
I don't see it being released in HD any time soon.
I'm desperate to own it now and will upgrade it in the future if an HD version becomes available.
The DVD has a special feature that I want that isn't on the Blu-ray release; (okay, I can't think of an example right now, but it's possible).
It's something in a series/franchise I've been buying/collecting and I want to complete the set as a 'set' and I don't think I'm likely to upgrade it in future to HD in some way.

In practice the main reasons are lack of availability in HD (typically older stuff), or the HD versions are far more expensive and I don't feel they'll come down in price anytime soon, (which is mainly for non-UK discs where there's no UK Blu-ray or HD digital release).

It is noticeable how many things aren't released in the UK anymore on Blu-ray but still get a DVD release. This is very annoying!  Also (even more annoyingly) are things that are only released via streaming and can't even be purchased digitally; (e.g. Netflix.)
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Hello.  I'm in need of wisdom and guidance this morning.

What actually are uncredited cast?  I've always assumed it means they're people in the main feature(s) in some way (ignoring issues relating to archive footage, doubles and modern special effects) who aren't credited on-screen at some point, but I can't find anything in the Rules that actually says anything like this.  If they're not named on-screen but are so on the sleeve, in a special feature or in an accompanying leaflet/booklet, do any of these examples make them uncredited?  If not, where do they have to come from to become uncredited?

I've seen lots of variations in where people seem to draw the line between credited and uncredited and I know I'm guilty of not being very consistent.  I know I've submitted cast in the past that haven't been named on-screen that I've not flagged as uncredited and these have been accepted.  (I've submitted a lot of cast details for several seasons of Spooks recently that have no on-screen credits, made it clear in the notes they came from a third party site (the BBC), not flagged any as uncredited and all have been accepted.)

Thanks.
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Yes, this sort of thing is kind of annoying.

I've just this minute contributed a profile update that includes correcting four typos in the crew.  In at least three cases, the Credit Lookup Tool indicates that the misspellings are the correct name to use, as the profile appears to have been cloned to other copies of the movie and as the individuals have so few credits in total, this has tipped the balance in favour of the errors.  (I did check online to try and make sure the errors are actually errors.)  So I've had to ignore the Rules and put a note in the contribution notes as to why.
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I really don't mind too much if we track them in the online database or not; I guess I'd prefer to do so if it was up to me, as long as there's a clear and consistent way to do so, which there isn't at the moment.

What I'd prefer to be sorted is the totally out of date way we track Visual Effects people.  There's a world of difference between (for example) a guy who uses explosives to make things go 'bang' on set, and one working with a state of the art computer to make a spaceship explode in a far off galaxy, yet we record them in exactly the same way.  I think this is the worse part of the online system relating to crew. (Sorry, a bit off topic.)
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I guess the problem here is that the Rules haven't been updated to take into account this kind of role.  In many ways these people are like a stand-in, or a stunt performer that's seen on-screen, nether of which we normally track.  I guess another tick box alongside Voice Only and Puppeteer would solve the problem (actors that we don't actually see acting), assuming we want to track them at all.
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Got another song: Sell Out by Punks Not Dad.  It's all about Tesco (UK's largest supermarket chain) being sold out of everything.

I normally get most of my groceries delivered, but for weeks I've not been able to get a delivery slot because they've all been snapped up by old people ordering teabags and crumpets. I don't have a car and the nearest supermarket is a 25 minute walk away, so as I'm working full-time I'm slowly starving to death; and don't even ask about the toilet paper situation.... The irony being that most of my work at the moment is driving home grocery delivery vans between stores or stores and garages, for Sainsbury's and Tesco.



Just found this: Man Flu by the same band. It's not quite the same but the information in the video may be helpful.
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