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How does this happen? I don't know the inner workings of the Database BUT I suspect that what happens is that when someone finds a reason for a birth year they EDIT the Cast member to include a Birth Year (YOB). This will cause all films featuring that cast member to change including any with the "other cast member" which they sought to distinguish against therby defeating the object. I hope that what should happen is that they CREATE NEW cast member(s) with the DOB entry and change all relevant films to this new cast member(s). This would leave any which have not been audited and documented to show which DOB crew member it should mean just with the name.

This has the benefit of keeping the Data accurate but loses functionaliy until all roles are changed. If it does work, as I hope, then the screeners will have more work to ensure the master entity in the Database has not been edited to change the YOB I have started a Poll to see if others agree with this approach. It should mean that if you contribue a profile with a YOB added then you will have been the one who changed it.

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In my opinion that is still a bad no vote as his contribution is following the rules 100%

Ken not only said on these forums a few different times if a birth year is from a previously accepted profile to just let that be known... which he did. and has it in the rules to do just that... which  again he did.


As long as he is following the rules completely... which he is... a no vote is just wrong.

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If there is a birth year already in that contribution in cast and crew, and you just add dividers or add cast/crew, then it will be accepted. If that actor was not present and thus you add a birth year to the contribution, the contribution maybe declined if you dont supply support as to why it is needed. I am trying to keep track of all the ones that have been supported, but sometimes I need to be reminded that it is a valid cast/crew member that needs a birthyear.

-Gerri

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Great idea Graveworm.
I've always edited cast & crew to add BYs in the past, so it's definitely worth a go creating new additions to see if this solves the problem.

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Quoting northbloke:

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Great idea Graveworm.
I've always edited cast & crew to add BYs in the past, so it's definitely worth a go creating new additions to see if this solves the problem.

Yeah, but the fix for the cure is more work and more of a pain in the arse than not having it at all.

BY is one of those things that sounds good at first blush, but is a disaster when implemented.

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I agree, but it doesn't matter. Even with 11 Yes against 0 No votes, profiles now get repeatedly rejected for not providing documentation for BYs. I didn't add the BY, and have no clue who the supposed other actor is. So either I remove the BY (which we have not been instructed to do), or stop contributing cast/crew data until this is sorted out.