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What's the case type of this parent profile ? (part 2)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorreybr
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I'm not bending anything. I've posted several questions about titles like that and got the answer that they should be box-set style packaging. (Now slip case). I don't like it, but that's what they should be according to Dan and Skip

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*sigh* come on. I am now not argumenting why it has to be a Boxset casetype. I am now asking to please further clarify it in that images post! Why is it so hard for some people to agree that it HELPS to make some stuff more clear by adding extra info (even when it is redundant).


I agree with Repter, if we are meant to profile single movies inside slip cases as slip cases (once version 3.1 is released), then it would be very helpful to new users to have an image reflecting that in the case type thread. At the moment, it looks like we only use it for box sets.

I'm sure reybr wouldn't even mind if you used the Road To Perdition image!
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Agreed, at least some members should wait till Dan has a chance to update the screen images and clarify.
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There's no need copying that thread.
Your images still don't tell me what casetype I should use for a Keepcase inside a Slipcase. Or do you want us to use Boxset as well ?!

Please read the directions above the image.


What do you think the John Wayne set in the picture is?
John

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The images and descriptions have been updated.
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I'm not bending anything. I've posted several questions about titles like that and got the answer that they should be box-set style packaging. (Now slip case). I don't like it, but that's what they should be according to Dan and Skip


Wrong.  I don't give a damn what the outer case is, before you can call it a 'box set' it MUST meet the definition of a box set.  A two disc special edition with only one movie is NOT a box set, and never will be, regardless of what the outer container is.  And Dan and Skip never said they were.
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As I wrote in the other thread, this is about the CASE TYPE, not the profile type. It has always been about the case type, but you have refused to see that. All this is irrelevant now as it as been renamed to slip case in the program and the online

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The images and descriptions have been updated.


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[Image removed at Dan's request.]

So single movies, whether packaged in a keep case or digipak, which have an outer slip case are now to be entered as slip case?

*sigh*

Hopefully Ken will see the poll results and change his mind.



*locks all case types*
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I think if the poll were worded differently, the results would be very different.
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Of course, these have been incorrectly entered for a couple of years.
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Of course, these have been incorrectly entered for a couple of years.

hmm. Incorrect by what standard? Near Dark and Amélie are in the database as digipaks whereas Reds is in the database as keep case. Seems like they're "correct" to me as-is and are only "incorrect" due to the change to slip case.

Now with reybr's contribution, The Adventures of Robin Hood is on its way to transition from digipak to slip case.
...James

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Of course, these have been incorrectly entered for a couple of years.

hmm. Incorrect by what standard? Near Dark and Amélie are in the database as digipaks whereas Reds is in the database as keep case. Seems like they're "correct" to me as-is and are only "incorrect" due to the change to slip case.

Now with reybr's contribution, The Adventures of Robin Hood is on its way to transition from digipak to slip case.

Incorrect by the standard of, that isn't what you see on the shelf at the store when you buy them. What you keep on the shelf at home is up to you.

I'm sure you remember this argument, it went on for several days a couple of years ago.
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Incorrect by the standard of, that isn't what you see on the shelf at the store when you buy them. What you keep on the shelf at home is up to you.

I'm sure you remember this argument, it went on for several days a couple of years ago.

I don't recall the specifics of that. Case types haven't really been a big issue for me. The only reason I read this thread was because I was searching for information to see what was going on after reybr's contribution of slip case for The Adventures of Robin Hood. That seemed wrong to me so I decided to check these threads and I see this.

I think we should be able to open the packaging in order to determine the case type. Trying to divine the case type from a closed package seems short sighted to me. But whatever. My case types are all locked now since the acceptable information now seems useless to me!

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Thank GOD! 

Well I guess I spoke to soon, it didn't take long for someone to try and bend the intent of Dan's images.  Now the Warner Two-Disc Special editions are all slip cases.

After looking at the new pictures in the case type thread and these couple of exchanges with Dan, I don't think the intent was bent. The Amélie example is equivalent to the Warner Two-Disc SE's. Unfortunately I think we've just lost digipak as a case type from the main database for most digipak releases.
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I think we should be able to open the packaging in order to determine the case type. Trying to divine the case type from a closed package seems short sighted to me. But whatever. My case types are all locked now since the acceptable information now seems useless to me!

That depends on your perspective. If you are looking at this from the perspective of what to look for when purchasing a given release when multiple releases of the same film hit the shelf the same day, the outer packaging is what you will be looking for because that is what you will see at the store. By your view, a person would have to purchase the DVD, leave the store, open the package and only then would they know what they purchased. How "short sighted" is that?

The outer case is what we scan for images and the outer case is what is supposed to be in the case type field.

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Unfortunately I think we've just lost digipak as a case type from the main database for most digipak releases.

This would only matter if you have some sort of emotional bond to selecting digipak or you own stock in Digipak and you feel the difference in the number of times it is selected in DVD profiler will effect profits or something.
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That depends on your perspective. If you are looking at this from the perspective of what to look for when purchasing a given release, the outer packaging is what you will be looking for because that is what you will see at the store. By your view, a person would have to purchase the DVD, leave the store, open the package and only then would they know what they purchased. How "short sighted" is that?

Well, I've never made a purchase decision based on case type, so I have no idea if that's short sighted or not. I would find it more valuable if DVD Profiler told me in advance what sort of case type is inside the packaging that I can't see rather than telling me what I can already see. But that's just me.

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The outer case is what we scan and the outer case is what is supposed to be in the case type field.

OK, Dan.

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Unfortunately I think we've just lost digipak as a case type from the main database for most digipak releases.

This would only matter if you have some sort of emotional bond to selecting digipak or you own stock in Digipak and you feel the difference in the number of times it is selected in DVD profiler will effect profits or something.

That's right. You're right and I'm either emotional or financially affected. That must be it. 

Actually, I just find 'slip case' to be of no value as data. When I think of the packaging for Amélie or the Warner 2-disc SE's, I think of digipak. I don't think of 'slip case'. And now digipaks inside slip cases are equivalent to keep cases inside slip cases. That just seems illogical to me. But maybe I'm just being emotional. 
...James

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The outer case is what we scan and the outer case is what is supposed to be in the case type field.

OK, Dan.

That really is the only important part of all this and you're right, I should have limited my comments to that.
Dan
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