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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | LOL... there has been a few profiles I was cursing before I finally got it right!  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | I once voted 'no' once on a full audit due to an error with the title. I even took a screenshot and included the link in my 'no' vote comment.
After the contribution was accepted, I PM'd Gerri to ask why it was accepted if the title was wrong (it was a possessory credit issue). Her reply was that she even though there was an issue with the title, she approved it because it added cast and crew. She advised that if I submitted a correction to the title, she would approve it.
I submitted the correction and it was approved.
Invelos therefore did not seem to follow the "All correct or nothing" practice that's being advocated by many in this thread.
That been my experience anyway. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Wrong is wrong (no matter how minor it might be) - better to vote no, PM the contributor and point out the errors, and have him/her resubmit. Saves a lot of work down the line when doing full audits...  | | | Berak
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I once voted 'no' once on a full audit due to an error with the title. I even took a screenshot and included the link in my 'no' vote comment.
After the contribution was accepted, I PM'd Gerri to ask why it was accepted if the title was wrong (it was a possessory credit issue). Her reply was that she even though there was an issue with the title, she approved it because it added cast and crew. She advised that if I submitted a correction to the title, she would approve it.
I submitted the correction and it was approved.
Invelos therefore did not seem to follow the "All correct or nothing" practice that's being advocated by many in this thread.
That been my experience anyway. James: Don't go there, we don't need to revist an issue which YOu and someothers have in my view made a complete and total MESS. PLEASE. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I once voted 'no' once on a full audit due to an error with the title. I even took a screenshot and included the link in my 'no' vote comment.
After the contribution was accepted, I PM'd Gerri to ask why it was accepted if the title was wrong (it was a possessory credit issue). Her reply was that she even though there was an issue with the title, she approved it because it added cast and crew. She advised that if I submitted a correction to the title, she would approve it.
I submitted the correction and it was approved.
Invelos therefore did not seem to follow the "All correct or nothing" practice that's being advocated by many in this thread.
That been my experience anyway. I agree... as I said from my first post... it is not an all or nothing thing for Ken and Gerri... that is not what my voting no is about. (generally that is... as I don't have title this thread is about) The vote is about me seeing something that is wrong per rules or per the data. If something is spotted that is wrong/against the rules a no vote is how we are told to do it in the voting rules. those rules don't distinguish between big or small... or anything else like that... but to vote per the rules. It is then up to the contributor if they want to re-submit or let it ride. If they decide to let it ride then it is up to Ken or Gerri to decide. But if there is something wrong I feel it is my job to vote per the rules... no matter how big or small the matter is. And again... I myself am ok if they decide to let it ride as it is. so guess what I am saying... just because I know it still may (or possibly even should) go through... that don't mean I will shirk my duty (what it feels like to me personally) when it comes to voting. that is if I actually spot what is wrong. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,328 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why does Mr. Spock's famous saying in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan ring in my head all of a sudden...  | | | | My Home Theater |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | Never seen Star Trek 2  | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
James:
Don't go there, we don't need to revist an issue which YOu and someothers have in my view made a complete and total MESS. PLEASE.
Skip I made a vote based on an Invelos rule. How it got to be a rule is not the issue, or the subject of this thread, or my point. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Let's play turnabout a bit. What does it say about YOU as user if you make a Contribution and somebody spots an error and you either don't want to fix it or won't because the votes are in your favor. The error is still there and SOMEBODY has to fix it. In this thread, your position was the nobody should be able to force you to fix all parts of an overview if you only wanted to fix part of it. Ever since then, I've never voted against an overview update that fixed something while it still contained an error. Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I agree... as I said from my first post... it is not an all or nothing thing for Ken and Gerri... that is not what my voting no is about. (generally that is... as I don't have title this thread is about) The vote is about me seeing something that is wrong per rules or per the data. If something is spotted that is wrong/against the rules a no vote is how we are told to do it in the voting rules. those rules don't distinguish between big or small... or anything else like that... but to vote per the rules.
It is then up to the contributor if they want to re-submit or let it ride. If they decide to let it ride then it is up to Ken or Gerri to decide.
But if there is something wrong I feel it is my job to vote per the rules... no matter how big or small the matter is. And again... I myself am ok if they decide to let it ride as it is.
so guess what I am saying... just because I know it still may (or possibly even should) go through... that don't mean I will shirk my duty (what it feels like to me personally) when it comes to voting. that is if I actually spot what is wrong. I still vote 'no' on any error (with the exception I just noted above to Skip). I just pointed out that experience to show that Invelos' take on things like this appears to be a bit more relaxed. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,328 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Never seen Star Trek 2 "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, or the one" | | | | My Home Theater |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Xradman: Totally illogical.  James: Depends on what you refer to, there are stylistic choices that one might make for his/her own purposes. But I presume we are referring to typos of one sort or another, missin a comma, or some user-generated spelling error. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,312 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting xradman: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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Never seen Star Trek 2
"the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, or the one" Maybe I look at things differently then most people... I don't know. But to me voting no on any mistake/broken rule is serving the good of the many. It is letting all know there is something wrong and needs to be looked at. As been noted here more then once.. the no vote on something small does not mean the contribution will get declined. It only means I spotted something wrong and from there it is up to the contributor and Invelos to decide if what I pointed out is enough reason to change it or decline it. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 26, 2007 | | Posts: 196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just to be clear, this post wasn't directed at Erik or at his submission. He just brought up an interesting philosophical question that I thought I'd bring up here to see how other people felt.
Generally I will vote no if I spot any error. I pay particular attention to overviews, because that's what I look at the most in the program. If I spot any mistake, I vote no and list the mistake in the reason field - I try to list all of the mistakes, but sometimes I don't spot others until the second or third go around. I pay less attention to cast, little attention to crew, and virtually none to fields like studio, which aren't important to me at all. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Depends on what you refer to, there are stylistic choices that one might make for his/her own purposes. But I presume we are referring to typos of one sort or another, missin a comma, or some user-generated spelling error. I guess one person's "If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks" is another person's "stylistic choice".  Quoting smeehrrr: Quote:
Just to be clear, this post wasn't directed at Erik or at his submission. He just brought up an interesting philosophical question that I thought I'd bring up here to see how other people felt.
Generally I will vote no if I spot any error. I pay particular attention to overviews, because that's what I look at the most in the program. If I spot any mistake, I vote no and list the mistake in the reason field - I try to list all of the mistakes, but sometimes I don't spot others until the second or third go around. I pay less attention to cast, little attention to crew, and virtually none to fields like studio, which aren't important to me at all. I'm pretty much the same. There are certain areas I focus on and others I couldn't care less. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 26, 2007 | | Posts: 196 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
I guess one person's "If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks" is another person's "stylistic choice".
I would love to see that rule revisited in the near future. At some point we need to say "There's typography, and there's data, and we don't capture typography". Particularly since now we aren't even capturing the typography well anyway. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
After the contribution was accepted, I PM'd Gerri to ask why it was accepted if the title was wrong (it was a possessory credit issue). Her reply was that she even though there was an issue with the title, she approved it because it added cast and crew. She advised that if I submitted a correction to the title, she would approve it. Does this mean that Gerri can only approve and release the entire contribution and not just the individual parts? (Answering my own question, even if they can cherry-pick parts of a contribution, it would be REALLY time consuming to do that -- and probably not worth the time to release parts of a contribution instead of the whole one.) | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,916 |
| | Posted: | | | | From what I've seen, Gerri can approve/reject the profile and the image separately. Not separate parts of the profile. |
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