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Girl with a Pearl Earring, Original Title
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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I own an Italian release of Girl with a Pearl Earring.

The cover Title in Italian is La Ragazza con l'Orecchino di Perla.
On the back cover, the Original Title is incorrectly reported as
"The Girl with the Pearl Earring"
and that's the "Original Title" in the profile.
So, must I leave the Original Title field as it is written, even if it's wrong? 

The Screen Title is useless, as it's been translated into Italian as well (La Ragazza con l'Orecchino di Perla).
-- Enry
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I dont think so. You can easily document that the cover shows a wrong original title. The movie is named after the picture and the novel.
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In my opinion original title is original title, doesnt matter what the distributor calls the movie. So i would go with the correct one. I've had few finnish profiles that also had the wrong title on the back cover in worst cases it was even in the wrong language
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The rules don't say the Original Title must come from the case.  They simply say to use "the original title for the main feature in the country of origin."

If the original title is 'Girl with a Pearl Earring', then that is what should be used.
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I dont think so. You can easily document that the cover shows a wrong original title. The movie is named after the picture and the novel.

No the picture is called Het meisje met de parel...
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The rules don't say the Original Title must come from the case.  They simply say to use "the original title for the main feature in the country of origin."


The problem is, it also says where to take the "Original Title" from.
Quoting the Rule:
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Use the title from the copyright notice if available, otherwise from the film's credits.



Quoting Unicus69:
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If the original title is 'Girl with a Pearl Earring', then that is what should be used.


So it would appear, according to the official web site http://www.girlwithapearlearringmovie.com/
-- Enry
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No the picture is called Het meisje met de parel...


Well, it's a UK/Luxembourg co-production, but the UK production company (Archer Street Productions) is credited first and is the owner of the Copyright. And it was theatrically released by a UK studio, to boot. So I guess one could say that CoO = UK, and for DVDP purposes
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The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin.
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-- Enry
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No the picture is called Het meisje met de parel...


Well, it's a UK/Luxembourg co-production, but the UK production company (Archer Street Productions) is credited first and is the owner of the Copyright. And it was theatrically released by a UK studio, to boot. So I guess one could say that CoO = UK, and for DVDP purposes
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The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin.
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The word "picture" in CalInTheZone's message as in the HilbertHimmelwaerts' message CalInTheZone quoted refers to the painting, not the movie.
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The rules don't say the Original Title must come from the case.  They simply say to use "the original title for the main feature in the country of origin."


The problem is, it also says where to take the "Original Title" from.
Quoting the Rule:
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Use the title from the copyright notice if available, otherwise from the film's credits.


You are, of course, correct.  I guess we should find out what the copyright notice...not to be confused with the credit block...says.
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The word "picture" in CalInTheZone's message as in the HilbertHimmelwaerts' message CalInTheZone quoted refers to the painting, not the movie.


Oops!       
Now I get it, thanks!
-- Enry
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I guess we should find out what the copyright notice...not to be confused with the credit block...says.


Here is the Copyright notice at the end of end credits.




Here is the Screen Title in the opening credits:




Here is the Back Cover of the case, where we can read the Italian title and a pseudo-English title:





The only reference where I could find the exact sentence Girl with a Pearl Earring is in the last scene of the movie: the camera zooms in and shows the original painting, then a caption tells us the title and the author and year of the painting in English. Perhaps that was also originally meant as Title of the movie, so I could use that as as a source, what do you say?
-- Enry
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I dont think so. You can easily document that the cover shows a wrong original title. The movie is named after the picture and the novel.

No the picture is called Het meisje met de parel...

No, the movie is based on the painting "Meisje met de parel" made by Johannes Vermeer which is part of the art collection of "Het Mauritshuis" here in The Hague.
And the novel is written without "A" or "The" too.
Martin Zuidervliet

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I dont think so. You can easily document that the cover shows a wrong original title. The movie is named after the picture and the novel.

No the picture is called Het meisje met de parel...


Ok, named after the english title of the picture. 
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The only reference where I could find the exact sentence Girl with a Pearl Earring is in the last scene of the movie: the camera zooms in and shows the original painting, then a caption tells us the title and the author and year of the painting in English. Perhaps that was also originally meant as Title of the movie, so I could use that as as a source, what do you say?


From what I can gather...and thanks for the pictures...neither the copyright notice nor the film's credits list the "the original title for the main feature in the country of origin."  That being the case, neither of those sources can be used.  I would use a different source...official film site or title from the release IN the country of origin would seem to be the best sources...but you could try the souce you listed above.  The worst that can happen is Gerri declines it.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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The only reference where I could find the exact sentence Girl with a Pearl Earring is in the last scene of the movie: the camera zooms in and shows the original painting, then a caption tells us the title and the author and year of the painting in English. Perhaps that was also originally meant as Title of the movie, so I could use that as as a source, what do you say?


From what I can gather...and thanks for the pictures...neither the copyright notice nor the film's credits list the "the original title for the main feature in the country of origin."  That being the case, neither of those sources can be used.  I would use a different source...official film site or title from the release IN the country of origin would seem to be the best sources...but you could try the souce you listed above.  The worst that can happen is Gerri declines it.


I submitted the change and it was approved.

In my contribution I gave the following reason:
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Changed Original Title to match the actual original title "Girl with a pearl earring" as shown at the end of the movie (actually it is the title of the painting that inspired the movie, but it is the original title of the movie as well) and according to the official web site http://www.girlwithapearlearringmovie.com/ Also see this thread http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=254274
-- Enry
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