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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Apparently that is not necessarily the case.
The most recent X-men release has the letter "X" with three "blades" in front and then the words "The Last Stand" in the foreground. The word 'Men' does not appear anywhere on the front cover, except in the tagline.
Reading from "background to foreground, this would yield 'XIII: The Last Stand".
The current profile currently has 'X-Men: The Last Stand'.
This is not the title on the front cover, so I submitted a change (Blu-ray version) to replace the existing title with 'XIII: The Last Stand'.
As you might expect, voting was split: 4 yes and 5 no.
The change was declined.
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,738 |
| | Posted: | | | | Have you tried "X III: The Last Stand"? We don't write "Star WarsIII" after all and "XIII" is roman, meaning "13". When it comes to the german cover, I'd tend to "X-Men: Der letzte Widerstand" without the III, but I don't know how the american cover actually looks like. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions. I think the wonderful Burt Bacharach said it best in "A House Is Not a Home": But it's just a crazy gameWhen it ends, it ends in tears  | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: April 7, 2007 |  Posts: 357 |
| | Posted: | | | | As Douglas Bader said "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" If there were never exceptions there would be no need for a word for it.  |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Apparently that is not necessarily the case.
The most recent X-men release has the letter "X" with three "blades" in front and then the words "The Last Stand" in the foreground. The word 'Men' does not appear anywhere on the front cover, except in the tagline.
Reading from "background to foreground, this would yield 'XIII: The Last Stand".
The current profile currently has 'X-Men: The Last Stand'.
This is not the title on the front cover, so I submitted a change (Blu-ray version) to replace the existing title with 'XIII: The Last Stand'.
As you might expect, voting was split: 4 yes and 5 no.
The change was declined.
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions. Sorry Hal, but I am all with the Screeners on this one. In my view, they applied the Rules but they also used pragmatism in interpreting them in this special case. I also agree with DJ Doena: the three blades on the X stand for "X III" (two separate words), not "XIII". Covers sometimes use typographic effects to show that there are two separate words, so we have to take typographic effects into account. | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Graveworm: Quote:
As Douglas Bader said "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men"
If there were never exceptions there would be no need for a word for it. Thank you Grave. I've never bothered having a signature or tagline before, but that is a great quote so I had to use it. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,188 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm glad common sense can still prevail.  | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Graveworm: Quote:
As Douglas Bader said "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men"
If there were never exceptions there would be no need for a word for it. This is so well-advised...  | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions. Yes, an other user said the same thing and I agreed with him on that. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's quite simple Hal....you take the title from the cover however if there isn't a a title on the front or it's somehow modified/changed etc. then you use another source...and leave it up to the votes and screeners...seems simple to me. How many 1000's of dvd's are there and a case like this is very rare. Let's not make more of it than we have to...the world is not coming to an end as a result of this. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, my point is that the Rule change that tells us to take the title from the front cover was a mistake, IMHO. Distributors do all kinds of dumb things on the cover that have nothing to do with the actual title!  | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Bodi: Quote:
It's quite simple Hal....you take the title from the cover however if there isn't a a title on the front or it's somehow modified/changed etc. then you use another source...and leave it up to the votes and screeners...seems simple to me. How many 1000's of dvd's are there and a case like this is very rare. Let's not make more of it than we have to...the world is not coming to an end as a result of this. They are not that rare and you completely missed the point! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
[...] and you completely missed the point! He might've missed yours (though I don't think so, at least not completely, I'd say) but at the same time raised another that's at least equally important to take into consideration, IMO, that is. | | | | Lutz |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 445 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nope...I didn't miss your point Hal...I realize you are saying they are suggestions and not rules...perhaps they are rules with exceptions for common sense maybe? And despite what you say or think, those types of covers are rare and we can deal with them quite easily without the rules or contributions falling apart. | | | | Last edited: by Bodi |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions. As far as I understood the rule on the titles, the front cover got involved to determine titles for foreign languages. Why do you abuse this rule for an American title? - For me it's obvious, that the title is "X-Men: The Last Stand" as stated in the copyright notice... Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,311 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
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The only thing that I can conclude from this is that the Rules are actually not Rules after all, but merely suggestions.
As far as I understood the rule on the titles, the front cover got involved to determine titles for foreign languages.
Why do you abuse this rule for an American title? - For me it's obvious, that the title is "X-Men: The Last Stand" as stated in the copyright notice...
Regards, AA The rule was changed a while back ago to always take the title from the front cover. | | | | Pete |
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