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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | |  There is a credited before this for "Based on a book by" so gets OMB "Screenplay by" gets Screenwriter but what does "Screen Story By" get credited as (If anything). |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is pure guesswork but I think these credits are implying that though Dan Gilroy was involved in the script, it was not specifically in the creation of the narrative which was the work of Pressfield and Shusett (maybe Gilroy adapted it to fit within a budget, say).
Therefore I'd say the "Screen Story by" credit is already covered by "Screenwriter" and that there's no appropriate way to add it as an additional credit in DVD Profiler. | | | | Last edited: by TheFly |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | OMB, ninehours.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I suppose if you really wanted to, you could give them duplicated screenwriter credits to show they have more than one writing credit in the film |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
OMB, ninehours. I'd say Original Material By is one thing it's definitely not, because the notes in the Contribution Rules say this applies when "Adapted from another medium". Clearly this is not the case here - "Screen Story By" refers only to this movie, not another medium. Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I suppose if you really wanted to, you could give them duplicated screenwriter credits to show they have more than one writing credit in the film I agree that this is the only way to include the credit, but since they are already included in the Screenplay credit it seems a bit redundant. | | | | Last edited: by TheFly |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 555 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would also say "OMB", as the final product (the screenplay) was based on both this and a novel. The Screen Story is in itself a sort of treatment/reworking/adaptation of the novel for the screen, without it being an actual screenplay. Then the screenplay is formed out of this. I made a list of expanded writing credits that I wish for in the future, as you can see here: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=248044&PageNum=1 | | | | Last edited: by Behemot |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheFly: Quote:
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OMB, ninehours.
I'd say Original Material By is one thing it's definitely not, because the notes in the Contribution Rules say this applies when "Adapted from another medium".
Clearly this is not the case here - "Screen Story By" refers only to this movie, not another medium.
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I suppose if you really wanted to, you could give them duplicated screenwriter credits to show they have more than one writing credit in the film
I agree that this is the only way to include the credit, but since they are already included in the Screenplay credit it seems a bit redundant. We have been using OMB for three years, Fly. it is not ideal but it is closer than anything else. And again the ONLY real way to solve these issues is with some form of Open credits. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 103 |
| | Posted: | | | | If there's precedent, fair enough. My conclusions were based only on the screenshot provided and my interpretation of the published Contribution Rules (and associated notes).
I generally leave crew credits up to other people to contribute so I'm certainly not about to try to dictate how things should be done. I was just giving my view (as an impartial observer if you like) of what I think the answer is based solely on the rules as they are written. |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Screen story sounds like "writer" to me, esp. if it isn't apadpted from any other medium. It sounds to me like that's where the original ideas and outline of the screenplay came from, the screenwriters just fill in all the words and such, following the story/outline from the story writers.
OMB would be a close second to me, but if this is an original idea and not a book or comic or TV show, writer sounds more correct.
Or in this case, since the screenwriters and screen story by are the same guys, maybe just a lone screenwriter credit would be best. | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 465 |
| | Posted: | | | | Boy, this is another one of those pointless discussions that annoy the hell out of me.  Skip is right here. We have been using OMB for "Screen Story By" for several years now and I see absolutely no reason to change this convention. Why ? Because nobody would gain anything from it, but hundreds (if not thousands) of profiles would have to be 'fixed'. "Screen story by" = "Story by" = "Original Material by" is a simple logic. Let's leave it at that. | | | | Michael | | | | Last edited: by TigiHof |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
Boy, this is another one of those pointless discussions that annoy the hell out of me.
Skip is right here. We have been using OMB for "Screen Story By" for several years now and I see absolutely no reason to change this convention. Why ? Because nobody would gain anything from it, but hundreds (if not thousands) of profiles would have to be 'fixed'.
"Screen story by" = "Story by" = "Original Material by" is as simple logic. Let's leave it at that. I agree with Skip and Michael. | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TigiHof: Quote:
"Screen story by" = "Story by" = "Original Material by" is a simple logic. Let's leave it at that. I have to agree there.  | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Do we also have a sort of consensus on "Created By"? Happens a lot for TV-series.
But it is not always clear whether it is a "production" kind of creation or "writing/OMB" type. Or maybe I should say it is clear, but not consistently used. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
Do we also have a sort of consensus on "Created By"? Happens a lot for TV-series.
But it is not always clear whether it is a "production" kind of creation or "writing/OMB" type. Or maybe I should say it is clear, but not consistently used. That has been brought up many times... and some people feel it should be OMB... some people feel it should be OCB... and then some of us feel it should not be in profiler at all till we get the credit in profiler. No real consensus. | | | | Pete |
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