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B & W, Color, Mixed
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKonrad
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I would like to know how the color status of a movie is entered correctly that is overwhelmingly black & white but has some scenes in full color. Movie is Bertolucci's "Before the Revolution" (BD/DVD Combo by BFI). I estimate 99% of the run time is black & white but there are some scenes in full color. Back cover states "black and white, and colour". In such a case do we check Mixed, or Black and White plus Mixed, or Black and White plus Color or Black and White plus Color plus Mixed, or leave it as is at the moment, just Black and White?

I would appreciate opinions on this. Thank you! If I overlooked a thread dealing with this already I apologize!
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Black & White would be correct for a film that's 99% black & white.

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You would just check mixed as long as it is at least 10% of the running time.

from the rules...
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Mixed - Programs that feature different coloring methods (e.g. Color and Black & White). Use when the coloring for at least 10% of the film differs from the rest of the film.
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Locally I would enter it as mixed. Just as silent films are not silent if they contain dialogue. But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 
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Would be mixed in my local as well. I don't really like having to calculate the running time either. If it has both it should be mixed.
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But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 

A good rule, because it's ridiculous to call a film with two colored frames and 170,000 black & white frames a "mixed" color film.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKonrad
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Thank you all! I am sorry, I should have consulted the rules first! 
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A good rule, because it's ridiculous to call a film with two colored frames and 170,000 black & white frames a "mixed" color film.

Exactly.
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Locally I would enter it as mixed. Just as silent films are not silent if they contain dialogue. But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 


This. It's either mixed or it's not. It should be that simple.
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Locally I would enter it as mixed. Just as silent films are not silent if they contain dialogue. But of course the rules had to screw this up by talking about percantages... 


This. It's either mixed or it's not. It should be that simple.


I agree.
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Yeah... I am a rather literal person... so to me if there is any amount that is different then the rest of the film it is mixed. Unfortunately Ken decided to go with the percentage thing.
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I also tend to concur with the literal interpretation. That Bertolucci chose to shoot various scenes in color was an artistic decision that make this a mixed black and white, and color film as the British Film Institute states on the back cover, even though these scenes amount to two minutes max. in a total run time of 112 minutes. That's why I was unhappy with just black & white in the first place. But as ABBA said, rules must be obeyed.
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That Bertolucci chose to shoot various scenes in color was an artistic decision that make this a mixed black and white, and color film as the British Film Institute states on the back cover, even though these scenes amount to two minutes max. in a total run time of 112 minutes. That's why I was unhappy with just black & white in the first place.

Fortunately for Mr. Bertolucci and fans of this film the ruling by Invelos will not alter the artistry of the movie.

I only hope that the database's failure to record that there are two minutes of color don't put off anyone who might otherwise have given it a try. 

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Fortunately for Mr. Bertolucci and fans of this film the ruling by Invelos will not alter the artistry of the movie.

I only hope that the database's failure to record that there are two minutes of color don't put off anyone who might otherwise have given it a try. 

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I didn't think it would. The sarcasm was not asked for.
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I only hope that the database's failure to record that there are two minutes of color don't put off anyone who might otherwise have given it a try. 

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I do believe this is the reason this place is such a happy joyfilled place.

Generally, but there are a few here who take this stuff a little too seriously, IMO.

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