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"Body Make-up Artist"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Does a "Body Make-up Artist" credit qualify for entry, and if it does, is it "Make-up Artist" or "Make-up Effects"?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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The job description for a Makeup Artist is:

Makeup Artist Job Description. Makeup Artists are beauty practitioners who offer general makeup services or work in prosthetic design. Their primary duties include enhancing facial aesthetics through makeup, creating custom looks for clients and working with actors on movie sets.

The job description for a Special Effects Makeup Artist is:

Special effects makeup artists will spend much of their time using cosmetics and appliances to create the appearance of bruises, cuts, blood, old age, deformities, mutations, and more.

I'm the lone vote for Makeup Effects.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorObiKen
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mreeder50 is correct with the role descriptions.

There are four different types of movie makeup artist roles:

1. Key makeup artist - responsible for designing/applying makeup to lead roles and supervising/delegating subordinate makeup artists.
2. Makeup artist - responsible for applying makeup to non-lead roles and extras based on Key makeup artist's designs.
3. Makeup assistant - organize makeup kits and assist makeup artists with body makeup (such as tatoos or body painting).
4. Special effects makeup artists - responsible for any special makeup effects using either makeup/prosthetics to reproduce wounds, deformities, wrinkles, etc.

However, it's not easy to determine whether body makeup credit is a makeup SFX effect or a makeup artist/assistant role.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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I found this definition of Body mak-up artist:
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Body make-up artists use oils, watercolours and other materials to paint people's bodies. They are usually classified as commercial artists, rather than fine artists, because they do not choose their own theme or subject matter in most cases.

That doesn't sound like special effects make-up. Regular make-up artist? Possibly, but personally I would not consider it a valid credit for DVD Profiler. Not unless Ken adds it to the approved list. Hm, update the rules? Fat chance 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorObiKen
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That may be true for artistic makeup artists, but the work and responsibilities of a movie makeup artist are different and can be constrained by film production contracts and union rules.

A movie makeup artist applies cosmetics from the top of the head to the top of the breastbone, from fingertips to wrists and from toes to ankles. A movie body makeup artist applies cosmetics to any area of the body that a regular movie makeup artist cannot:
https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/movie-make-up-artist1.htm

In particular, the Makeup Artists & Hair Sylists Guild (http://www.local706.org/rules-regulations/) defines makeup as:
"any change in the appearance of a performer’s face or body created by the application of cosmetics, facial hair goods, and/or prosthetic appliances applied directly to the performer’s face or body."

The Makeup Artist Guild also further defined the use of prosthetics in makeup:
"Prosthetics are any three-dimensional appliances, including transfers, that have been prepared in advance from a mold and applied to the actors to change his/her appearance and to give character to the make-up.  It could be as small as a scar or wound, or as large as full facial pieces, and/or body parts, or bald caps."

So, my thoughts now are, "Body Makeup Artist" is a "Makeup Artist".

However, as GSyren rightly pointed out, there is no matching "Credited As" for "Body Makeup Artist" in the current rules for Make-up Artist 
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