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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was hoping this name had been done already, as he's been in bloody everything! But a search provided nothing  So here we go, is the common name Luis Guzmán (186 titles) or Luis Guzman (141 titles)? The current title lists, as you can see, are pretty much identical. It is possible he has the accent in some versions and not others, but not for all of them (I hope!) Luis Guzman (29 confirmed, 22 pending) anger managementbeverly hills chihuahuablack rainbone collectorboogie nights - confirmed the brave carlito's way - confirmed carlito's way: rise to power confidencecount of monte cristocrocodile dundee 2 - confirmed dinner for 5 disappearances double whammy dumb and dumberer the equalizer family businessfast food nation fightingguilty as sin hard luck the hard wayharold & kumar go to white castle - scenes deleted homicideinnocent bloodjohn from cincinnati law and order lemony snicket - confirmed the limeymagnoliamcbain miami vicenaked in new york nothing like the holidays nypd blueout of sightOzpunch drunk love - confirmed Q & A salton seasam the man school for scoundrelsseaquest dsv snake eyes still waitingstonewall the substitutetaking of pelham 123traffic - confirmed true believer waitingwalker texas ranger war - confirmed welcome to collinwoodLuiz Guzman (1 title) miami viceLuis Guzmán (4 confirmed, 29 pending) adventures of pluto nashanger managementbad luck black death black rainbone collectorboogie nights - wrong the brave carlito's way - wrong carlito's way: rise to power cleaner confidencecount of monte cristocowboy way crocodile dundee 2 - wrong double whammy dreamer dumb and dumberer equalizer fast food nation fightingfrasierguilty as sin hard luck hard wayinnocent bloodjohn from cincinnati law & order lemony snicket - wrong limeyluckytown magnoliamcbain miami vicemr wonderful nothing like the holidays nypd blueone tough cop ozpunch drunk love - wrong Q & A rooftops salton seaschool for scoundrelsshort eyes snake eyes stonewall substitutetable one taking of pelham 123thin air traffic - wrong true believer waitingwalker texas ranger war - wrong welcome to collinwoodTitles in bold are right, titles in italics are wrong | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am sorry if this hijacks your thread... as I hope I am reading too much into it. but before Ken closed THIS THREAD he said... Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
It's "Common Name" not "Correct Name" "Proper Name" "Given Name" "Favorite Name" or any other definition. The CLT results determine the common name. If incorrect entries are causing the results to skew, the results will shift when the corrections are made. The CLT pulls from the Credited As field only, and not the common name.
If you spot a user who is submitting IMDB or other third party data in violation of their policies, be sure to vote it down and/or let us know via ticket. If you note a user continuing to do this, open a ticket. If we spot a pattern, they'll be permanently banned from contributions quickly. See what I put in bold... With him saying that today... it sounds like he is wanting us to go strictly by the CLT until there is enough corrections done to change it. Ken... if you see this... tell me I am reading too much into this... and threads like this to prove the CLT is wrong is still ok. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | You're right, it can be read that way. I certainly hope Ken didn't intend to overrule his previous comment that if we can show the CLT to be wrong we can submit appropriately. I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT. And I can see someone like Tim hitting the roof! |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 | | Posts: 415 |
| | Posted: | | | | boogie nights - LUIS GUZMAN |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
You're right, it can be read that way. I certainly hope Ken didn't intend to overrule his previous comment that if we can show the CLT to be wrong we can submit appropriately. I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT. And I can see someone like Tim hitting the roof! Yup... that is the problem... hopefully we can get Ken to clarify... as the way I read it... we would now go strictly by the CLT. | | | | Pete |
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 | Muckl | | That's my common name. |
| Registered: April 9, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 858 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,440 |
| | Posted: | | | | beverly hills chihuahua
black rain
carlito's way: rise to power
Luis Guzman
The Miami Vice credit for Luiz Guzman is incorrect, it also is Luis Guzman. | | | | Registered: February 10, 2002 |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think such threads are a good way to have a look again on some profiles and correct mistakes that are made. And the correcting will change the CLT, so that the common name gets correct. (hopefully)
But the results are as always a work of the users. So I'm always hoping as much users as possible work together. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting greyghost: Quote:
The Miami Vice credit for Luiz Guzman is incorrect, it also is Luis Guzman. Just watched this tonight and came here to post that.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: March 24, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,044 |
| | Posted: | | | | Innocent Blood - Luis Guzman as Morales. Rory  | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013
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 | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I really don't like the idea of deliberately submitting wrong data simply because it agrees with the CLT. I certainly won't ever resort to deliberately submitting wrong data, no. Sorry, just won't do it. If the common name is supposed to be the most-credited form, then I'll always do my best to use the most-credited form - not the form dictated by the batch of IMDb-data in our database. Mr. Guzman is an interesting case, because the numbers are so close, but I believe the accentless form will win out eventually. Like with Zoë Saldana, though, things are being complicated because IMDb-mined data still regularly makes its way into the database, and even one incorrect IMDb-mined profile eliminates the CLT "weight" of fifty correct profiles for the same title. Anyway, here are some credits I can confirm: Luis Guzmán: - Confidence - Frasier: The Tenth Season (ep. 'Enemy at the Gate') - Pluto Nash Luis Guzman: - Family Business - The Hard Way - Miami Vice: Season Two (different roles in two eps. 'The Prodigal Son' and 'Free Verse') - Out of Sight - School for Scoundrels - Welcome to Collinwood | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Magnolia - Luis Guzman (RC2 Netherlands) | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 767 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Limey: Luis Guzman (checked on UK R2 disc)
Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle: not credited (checked on UK R2 disc, which is called Harold & Kumar Get The Munchies) | | | | Last edited: by marcelb7 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Ken... if you see this... tell me I am reading too much into this... and threads like this to prove the CLT is wrong is still ok. Yes, you are.  I've clarified the post. Ideally, the focus should be on making sure the Credited As field matches the credit. If that's the case, then the CLT results will be correct - no matter what the common name is. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Phew!  |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | And to emphasize my earlier point, if a user has submitted mined data, try PMing them and letting them know their mistake. If they persist, please open a support ticket. We received several reports yesterday and handed out several warnings.
In these cases, users will receive one warning. If they persist, their account will be permanently banned from contributions and contribution voting. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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