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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 555 |
| | Posted: | | | | @ m.cellophane: Musical now added to OMB in my original post. Thanks!
@dee1959jay: I agree, the combination of foreign language films and open credits would indeed be a problem. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
@ James and Skip:
If we were to move towards open writing credits, how would you guys suggest we deal with writing credits in films that are not in English (especially languages that do not use our alphabet)? It sort of depends on how Ken decides to program it, if he chooses to do that at all. But we might keep the current major categories (directing, writing, etc) and just have 'as credited' for the credits. In this manner, we would not force an equivalence between écrit and written by, but they would both appear in the category for writing. I shudder at the thought of open sound credits though.   We could add a new category for "other" and all credits within that category would be non-contributed. Just my ideas. | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Deejay:
The way I would handle foreign language credits, is the ones that I could figure out that would fall within out system, I would list them as I see them. Now, of course, for character sets that DVDP does not recognize...yet, that would remain problematic as it still remains so for actors. IF I were to do any translations, I would keep them locally.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | How to credit the Screen Story by?  | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | OMB, Giga.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Agree...OMB | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Agree...OMB While I do agree on OMB, I do want to point out that "Screen Story by" is not listed anywhere in the credit table of the rules. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | If this is a screen grab from "The Patriot" then I would say we don't list the screen story credit as this film (according the info I can find) was based on a novel by William Heine. If that's mentioned in the credits then he would get the OMB credit. I don't believe M Sussman should get an OMB credit for simply writing a treatment! |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Agree...OMB
While I do agree on OMB, I do want to point out that "Screen Story by" is not listed anywhere in the credit table of the rules. Neither is "Sory By", but it ets OMB all he time. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
If this is a screen grab from "The Patriot" then I would say we don't list the screen story credit as this film (according the info I can find) was based on a novel by William Heine. If that's mentioned in the credits then he would get the OMB credit. I don't believe M Sussman should get an OMB credit for simply writing a treatment! I don't see any problem with giving more than one OMB credit. The producers apparently felt that Sussman's work was significant enough to warrant a credit. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Agree...OMB
While I do agree on OMB, I do want to point out that "Screen Story by" is not listed anywhere in the credit table of the rules. As Hal stated, there are a number of roles not specifically listed in the credits table that we give credit for including Story By, Original Screenplay By...etc  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the reply's. (You currently have 0 remaining positive votes for today  ) @northbloke: indeed: the Patriot, great memory! | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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Quoting 8ballMax:
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Agree...OMB
While I do agree on OMB, I do want to point out that "Screen Story by" is not listed anywhere in the credit table of the rules.
Neither is "Sory By", but it ets OMB all he time. That's what I'm saying. The list is not exhaustive. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
I don't see any problem with giving more than one OMB credit.
The producers apparently felt that Sussman's work was significant enough to warrant a credit. Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear - what I meant was that M Sussman shouldn't get an OMB credit because it's not original material anymore. If necessary it may be more accurate to credit M Sussman with 2 screenwriting credits instead - although that would look a bit weird which is why I suggested ignoring the "screen story" credit and only given them the screenplay credit. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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I don't see any problem with giving more than one OMB credit.
The producers apparently felt that Sussman's work was significant enough to warrant a credit.
Sorry, I don't think I made myself clear - what I meant was that M Sussman shouldn't get an OMB credit because it's not original material anymore.
If necessary it may be more accurate to credit M Sussman with 2 screenwriting credits instead - although that would look a bit weird which is why I suggested ignoring the "screen story" credit and only given them the screenplay credit. Still not sure that I understand you. Just because this is based on a previous work does not mean that Sussman did not also write original material for the movie that was not the screenplay. The fact that they have a separate "Screenplay By" credit tells me that he did two very different jobs. One was writing the story (OMB, IMO) and the other was writing the actual Screenplay (Screenwriter). As such I think he should get two different credits (not two Screenwriter credits). | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,680 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's another interesting problem: Smart Money (UPC 883929-002726) has four people credited with "Screen Story and Dialogue". The current entry for them is "Writer", but there is a contribution up for voting that changes them to "Screenwriter". What's also pertinent is that there is no other writing credit, i.e. no screenplay credit. It seems to me that screenwriter is appropriate in this case, but I'm not sure how that squares with the rules. What say you? By the way, I found some definitions at the Writers Guild of America. They may not be relevant in this particular case, but I'm sure some of you may find them interesting. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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