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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
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Now I am going to hive s lesson I have not given in a long time. Never copy day, uncredited, even with documentation. Modify it. What does that mean. Let's suppose someone has an uncredited role of general custer, change it to George custer, gen George a. Custer, or any possible variation which could be used to make it not a direct copy.
That's sensible, but if it's "Guy Standing on Corner" kind of hard to come up with a different discription.
I don't really think so...
- Man on Corner
- Man on Sidewalk
- Man at Street Corner
There is three in a matter of seconds off the top of my head. well I guess I'm not as bright as you are. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just takes a little creativity pal.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMDB usually gets the actor's name correct, but the roles, at least one is different than the end credits, one is missing or they are not in the same order as end credits. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am against removal of uncredited cast.
If there is no documentation, then I would prefer research be done to provide such documentation for the cast and their roles.
If you don't want to take that time, then I believe the data should stay until someone does. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
IMDB usually gets the actor's name correct, but the roles, at least one is different than the end credits, one is missing or they are not in the same order as end credits. Yes usually they are reliable for the name, but I can say they are champion to add typo when a performer doesn't have a lot of credit or create different page for the same person. For the role I think the reason is because of their characters bio fonction (a character being in multiple movies must have the same name to be linked to his/her fictional biography). | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Kathy
I agree relative to old existing uncredited. As I said when this was discussed when the rules were developed I supported wholesale removal, but ken was right about gold nuggets. Should we just throw out Clint Eastwood uncredited from creature from the black lagoon, clearly not. But kens later reversal was just incorrect. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jimmy S: Quote:
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IMDB usually gets the actor's name correct, but the roles, at least one is different than the end credits, one is missing or they are not in the same order as end credits.
Yes usually they are reliable for the name, but I can say they are champion to add typo when a performer doesn't have a lot of credit or create different page for the same person. For the role I think the reason is because of their characters bio fonction (a character being in multiple movies must have the same name to be linked to his/her fictional biography). Jimmy I have to disagree on IMDb accuracy. During my research leading to the rules I was shocked tho discover just how bad they are in that area. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
I agree relative to old existing uncredited. It's the one we talk about. Everybody agree that documenting the uncredited was a necessity when the rule was changed, but the rule applied to the profiles created after the change not the one done before. As I wrote, the documentation wasn't require before and it's impossible to know if a contributor did the informations search or not to confirm if an uncredited performer is in a film or not. |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,852 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Should we just throw out Clint Eastwood uncredited from creature from the black lagoon, clearly not. Why not? --------------- |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
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Should we just throw out Clint Eastwood uncredited from creature from the black lagoon, clearly not.
Why not?
--------------- If anyone sees uncredited Clint Eastwood in The Creature from the Black Lagoon delete him. He is uncredited in Revenge of the Creature  Sorry Skip. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Now guys you're funny  |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jimmy S: Quote:
Now guys you're funny Funny How? Do I amuse you? | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting Winston Smith:
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Should we just throw out Clint Eastwood uncredited from creature from the black lagoon, clearly not.
Why not?
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If anyone sees uncredited Clint Eastwood in The Creature from the Black Lagoon delete him.
He is uncredited in Revenge of the Creature Sorry Skip.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
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Now guys you're funny
Funny How? Do I amuse you? Ok Joe | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,641 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I am against removal of uncredited cast.
If there is no documentation, then I would prefer research be done to provide such documentation for the cast and their roles.
If you don't want to take that time, then I believe the data should stay until someone does. This is certainly plausable as long as documentation exists. But if the data actually is incorrect then no matter of research will provide the necessary documentation. So how should the latter be handled? This isn't just isolated to older profiles either. Sometimes you'll find new profiles post-Intervocative where uncredited cast/crew have crept in without the required documentation. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Rdo
I would not simply remove uncredited pre rules.for the reason explained. Grandfathering did not allow for the copying of old uncredited data into a new profile. Release. That would have to be documented. Post rules is another story if uncredited is sneaking in without doc, then either doc it or remove it. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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