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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote:
In particular with image contributions, we look for a distinctly significant improvement per the rules. I generally vote yes unless I feel the new image is worse than the existing. Should we vote no if we don't feel it's a significant improvement? There's lots of drama to be had in that "significant" word.  Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote:
As to the sources rule, dont overthink it. We aren't looking for information that would stand up in court. If you got all the information from the DVD, put "All information from DVD". If you included cast and crew, I would specifically call that out. "All info from DVD including cast and crew." Simple, to the point notes are easier for you to write and easier for us to read.  | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 524 |
| | Posted: | | | | You can base your vote off either - only if it is worse or measuring the "signifianticity". Either way is fine.
-Gerri | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Touti: Quote:
And you might want to change your attitude, these repeating insults in your latest posts are annoying and I for one am getting tired of it.
I apologize if I offended somebody, but I wanted to alert on something which I think bad for the wonderful tool dvdprofiler is. I think I made no personnel attack before Rifter insulted me. I really did not admit his tone  As for Skip, he was always correct. He send me a sympathic private message  , where he said he was "probably the best man to ask, I am after all the principle architect of the rules as they exist". That is why I tried to discuss with him. The problem is that he reads only what he wants, and do not try to understand any message which doesn't go in his direction  So Skip, sorry for my attitude  , I thank you for the job you make , but I'm not always Ok with you, because you work for zone1 english profiles and the problem is not the same everywhere. DariusKyrak said also that with probably better expression than me, and I totally agree with him | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 793 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gerri Cole:
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We aren't looking for information that would stand up in court. Quoted in case Skip missed it   | | | | Last edited: by Squirrelecto |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,433 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
As for Skip, he was always correct. He send me a sympathic private message , where he said he was "probably the best man to ask, I am after all the principle architect of the rules as they exist". That is why I tried to discuss with him. The problem is that he reads only what he wants, and do not try to understand any message which doesn't go in his direction The best place to ask about the Rules is the forum. I'll agree that Skip was (one of...?) the initiators of the Rules and brought the idea forward to InterVocative. However, after the Rules had been written, they have to stand up for themsleves and it is no longer relevant who had the initial idea. | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | As was pointed out near the beginning of this tread, the program is a DVD profiler.
That is why I think that as much of the data as possible should come from the DVD or its packaging.
I don't think many people if any are going to chase down source that are not on the DVD or its packaging, iin order to check a submitted profile, know I'm not.
That's why don't like uncredited actors and I made a request many moons ago that a separate list be provided for them. I remove them from my DB as I have the time.
Especially in older movies, where the roles were not defined in the credits, I have watched the movie to determine the roles actors played.
Obviously, if you reduce the data that must be acquired from outside sources to a minimum the chance for an debate will be minimized.
On images, remember, and I am repeating myself, if a submitted image does not fit in the 500 X 700 pixels box, it will be compress to fit. This will change the quality of the image, for better or worse. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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As for Skip, he was always correct. He send me a sympathic private message , where he said he was "probably the best man to ask, I am after all the principle architect of the rules as they exist". That is why I tried to discuss with him. The problem is that he reads only what he wants, and do not try to understand any message which doesn't go in his direction
The best place to ask about the Rules is the forum.
I'll agree that Skip was (one of...?) the initiators of the Rules and brought the idea forward to InterVocative. However, after the Rules had been written, they have to stand up for themsleves and it is no longer relevant who had the initial idea. To add to what ya_shin said, there were quite a few 'architects of the rules'. Skip had the idea and assembled the group but, in his own words, he was only the facilitator...the group wrote the rules. I also agree that the best place to ask questions about the rules is in the forum. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gerri Cole: Quote:
Quoting AHels:
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Quoting richierich:
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The only frustration I have, is when an image contribution is declined, despite there being up to a 20-1 yes vote.
As it is basically a subjective element of a profile, surely such a great majority should dictate that it is a preferable image?
But it appears the screener/autobot follows the 1 no vote.
Frustrated
I recently submitted higher quality coverscans for The 6th Day (5035822099036.4) which received 11 positive and 0 negative votes. Still the submission was declined for some reason.
Really frustrated
Keep in mind, it isn't just the number of votes. Some people vote yes on everything - who cares if it is the wrong UPC or the wrong language or there aren't sources... etc. You get the idea.
If you feel it was wrongly rejected, I encourage to send it back again with comments. Almost every time I seen one of those comments (something like "Recontribution, was declined last time with a 20:1 vote) I will PM you with why if I decline it again.
In particular with image contributions, we look for a distinctly significant improvement per the rules.
As to the sources rule, dont overthink it. We aren't looking for information that would stand up in court. If you got all the information from the DVD, put "All information from DVD". If you included cast and crew, I would specifically call that out. "All info from DVD including cast and crew." Simple, to the point notes are easier for you to write and easier for us to read. Thankyou for the verification Gerri | | |  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Squirrelecto: Quote:
Quoting Gerri Cole:
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We aren't looking for information that would stand up in court.
Quoted in case Skip missed it Squirrel: I have always said much the same thing. Do I want documentation....yes...do i expect it to hold up in court ...No. , because we aren't likely to be able to supply that. You need to pay attention to what I am saying Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting Touti:
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And you might want to change your attitude, these repeating insults in your latest posts are annoying and I for one am getting tired of it.
I apologize if I offended somebody, but I wanted to alert on something which I think bad for the wonderful tool dvdprofiler is. I think I made no personnel attack before Rifter insulted me. I really did not admit his tone Let's not blame me for the chip on your shoulder when you came in here complaining. Several people tried to explain it to you and you wouldn't listen. You still don't seem to really understand it, but be that as it may. You have to understand that you are not the only one who pops in here with that sort of attitude, and it gets real old having to listen to it. So, if I was a bit harsh and unsympathetic by your lights, don't let it bother you, it wasn't personal. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
As for Skip, he was always correct. He send me a sympathic private message , where he said he was "probably the best man to ask, I am after all the principle architect of the rules as they exist". Unbelieveable! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | You are unbelievable, hal Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | The rest of the team of at least a dozen folks from around the world ,was just chopped liver! All the credit belongs to Skip.  How pathetic!  | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The rest of the team of at least a dozen folks from around the world ,was just chopped liver!
All the credit belongs to Skip.
How pathetic! No, what's pathetic is that YOU are the only one I've ever heard accuse Skip of taking all the credit for doing the rules. He certainly has never claimed that. Your hatred of Skip, and the subsequent acrimony in your posts is wearing more than a little thin. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
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