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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote:
The rules say nothing about a one-sided disc containing two films. So they're not that clear.
Creating a child profile in this instance is ludicrous. Rules do not cover every single possible variation because they can't. Stop reading things INTO the rule that aren't there. It says more than one movie is a boxset. End of story. The rule doesn't address HOW to profile every possible situation that qualifies as a boxset. Technically, this is a double feature with both movies on the same side of the disc. We agreed that for now those should be done in one profile using dividers to separate the two, just like we do with episodes of a TV show. It is still correct, however, to check the boxset box. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! | | | | Last edited: by Rifter |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Stop reading things INTO the rule that aren't there. It says more than one movie is a boxset. End of story. The rule doesn't address HOW to profile every possible situation that qualifies as a boxset. I'm not reading things INTO the rule that aren't there. The opposite in fact. And surely the point of the rules is that they SHOULD address how to profile in EVERY possible situation. Quoting Rifter: Quote:
We agreed that for now those should be done in one profile using dividers to separate the two, just like we do with episodes of a TV show. Which is what I said should be done on the previous page. | | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | And they do, Kevin in virtually every case, they were intended to be simple and easily understood. Not read like War and Peace or the US Tax Code. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 813 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I agree that this "technically" falls within some of what is specified a boxset, there is no way to actually do what the boxset rules say - ie setup individual profiles for each movie. As such I don't think it can be classed as a boxset.
As such I think that the single profile, with the cast/crew separated by dividers is the sensible way to go. There is zero benefit in creating an essentially empty profile with a single child profile containing all. | | | Andy 
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|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
It is still correct, however, to check the boxset box. Huh?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting here to set the case type in this particular example to 'box set'? I thought we all agreed to choose the case type based on the actual packaging, not based on the content (so that, for example, a 'box set' with four movies can perfectly well have 'digipak' as case type, if that's what it's packaged in). Or do you mean something else? |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Oh no, here we go again.....   | | | | Lutz |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darxon: Quote:
Oh no, here we go again..... I'm sorry, did I ask the wrong question? I'll just shut up now, then... I was just genuinely confused there, for a minute. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think Darxon's just pulling your leg - boxset case type is a bit of a 'touchy' subject!  Though I was also confused by John's "check box" comment. To the topic at hand, although technically yes it should be treated as a box set, the way Profiler works at the moment, it's either impossible or at least really hard to create profiles to suit a boxset. I would say, at least for now, leave it the way it is. We may get more features in the future that will allow us to profile it properly, but until then I think it's more trouble than it's worth. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think Darxon's just pulling your leg - boxset case type is a bit of a 'touchy' subject!
Though I was also confused by John's "check box" comment.
To the topic at hand, although technically yes it should be treated as a box set, the way Profiler works at the moment, it's either impossible or at least really hard to create profiles to suit a boxset. I would say, at least for now, leave it the way it is. We may get more features in the future that will allow us to profile it properly, but until then I think it's more trouble than it's worth. What is so confusing? It is, by definition, a box set; therefore, you check the box. What else would you check? It isn't a digipack; it isn't a snapper. Like I said, profile it as if it were a TV disc with episodes -- for now. Actually, since it is a box set, if I were doing it locally, I would profile it as the master and only the master at this point, and wait until we can properly profile each movie as a child profile. I don't think the users would stand for that, however. They simply don't have the patience or the foresight. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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It is still correct, however, to check the boxset box.
Huh?! Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you suggesting here to set the case type in this particular example to 'box set'? I thought we all agreed to choose the case type based on the actual packaging, not based on the content (so that, for example, a 'box set' with four movies can perfectly well have 'digipak' as case type, if that's what it's packaged in). Or do you mean something else? Unfortunately, Profiler needs to update its usage of certain terminology. "Box Set" is one of the prime examples of why. A box set is a unit that contains more than one movie. It is also a "boxed set" of discs that can be contained in any type of storage container, be it keep case, slim case, digipack, custom, etc. One has to keep that in mind when assigning case type. A master profile would have the box set type checked because the master refers to the outer physical case that holds everything in one unit. A child profile would have keep case, digipack, etc., checked because it refers to the actual thing that secures the disc within the box set. The box set tab under Edit Mode is also referring to the inner discs, and not the outer "box" of the master profile. So, until they change the terminology so there is no confusion, you have to remember to be sure of your frame of reference before making any comments, lest they be misconstrued. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
What is so confusing? It is, by definition, a box set; therefore, you check the box. What else would you check? It isn't a digipack; it isn't a snapper.
Ha! | | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,432 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
What is so confusing? It is, by definition, a box set; therefore, you check the box. What else would you check? It isn't a digipack; it isn't a snapper. What box....? There is no "check box" that I am aware of that make a profile a box set profile. (You are hopefully not referring to the Case Type.) | | | Achim [諾亞信； Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
Registered: May 29, 2000 (at InterVocative) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ya_shin: Quote:
Quoting Rifter:
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What is so confusing? It is, by definition, a box set; therefore, you check the box. What else would you check? It isn't a digipack; it isn't a snapper.
What box....?
There is no "check box" that I am aware of that make a profile a box set profile. (You are hopefully not referring to the Case Type.) You notice I said that it depends on which profile you're looking at. The case type for a master profile is NOT a digipack for example, nor is it a keepcase. The list does contain 'box set' but that should properly say 'box set case' or even 'slipcase'. I think the best would be 'box set outer case' for the master. The proper check for a child would be what it actually is, ie., a digipack, keep case, and so on. I do believe that is what I said in my reply to Tim. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,372 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote:
It's not a boxset if both movies are on one side of a disc. You'll have to seperate the cast and crew for each movie using dividers. I agree |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
The case type for a master profile is NOT a digipack for example, nor is it a keepcase. You're wrong. If a collection of films comes in a digipack then digipack is what we use. Same goes for any other case-type. Box set is used, for example, for a slipcase containing several digipacks. | | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | John:
You are confusing Case type with Content. Case type would probably be a Keeper, content IS a boxset by definition.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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