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How we handle the Slip Case type? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote:
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Is this a challenge? I can possibly show 4 if not more.
Then do it. Am I stuttering or something?
Here you go. Does this cure your stutter?
I've got several more like that too... Personally, I would call that a clamshell. But if that's what you want to call a digipack with no cover, who am I to say otherwise?  | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
|  | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Clamshell, that's interesting. | | | | Dan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
Clamshell, that's interesting. I'm just basing that on the way the pictures look to me in your file. Also, when I hear digi"pack" I think of something that is holding multiple discs, not just one. Like a "pack" of cards, or a wolf "pack." Near as I can tell it is called a digipack solely because of the shape of the holder and the fact that it's clear instead of colored plastic. Functionally, to me anyway, it is no different than a keepcase in that it secures the disc with a center spring clip arrangement. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Functionally, to me anyway, it is no different than a keepcase in that it secures the disc with a center spring clip arrangement. Functionally all the cases are the same since they are all intended to hold the disks  . Anyway, it's the first time that I see anyone refer to the mechanism by which the disk is held, to determine the case type. I've seen keepcases with many different mechanisms for sure. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,320 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
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Clamshell, that's interesting.
I'm just basing that on the way the pictures look to me in your file. Also, when I hear digi"pack" I think of something that is holding multiple discs, not just one. Like a "pack" of cards, or a wolf "pack."
Near as I can tell it is called a digipack solely because of the shape of the holder and the fact that it's clear instead of colored plastic. Functionally, to me anyway, it is no different than a keepcase in that it secures the disc with a center spring clip arrangement. Not sure if you missed it John, but I named a couple from my TV Series collection alone.... - All in the Family: Season 1 (Multiple Discs, Standard Digipack, no slipcover or slipcase) - The Dead Zone: Season 1 (Multiple Discs, Standard Digipack, no slipcover or slipcase) | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
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Functionally, to me anyway, it is no different than a keepcase in that it secures the disc with a center spring clip arrangement.
Functionally all the cases are the same since they are all intended to hold the disks .
Anyway, it's the first time that I see anyone refer to the mechanism by which the disk is held, to determine the case type. I've seen keepcases with many different mechanisms for sure. There's an old saying that goes: Form follows function. That basically means that regardless of the form, if the function remains the same, nothing has changed. That's what this whole thing boils down to. And its a two-part problem, not just about case type. Often you can't tell just looking at the outside if its a boxset or not. You have to look inside to see if there is more than one movie, etc. Once you've determined that, then you can make an intelligent choice as to the type of container it is in. The only thing I know for sure is that you can't call the outer container of a boxset a digipack. First, the outer box has a UPC on it; and second, you can't attach a disc to a cardboard box. So, the outer box HAS to be called a slipcase/slipcover/custom, or if Ken wants it that way, a boxset. The inner mechanism that holds the actual discs is a keepcase/digipack/etc. I have a solution to the problem that I think accommodates everybody; in fact I have that and an alternate version. Either will fix the problem quite nicely, but I hesitate to offer it. In the past, some people have been less than ready to discuss any proposals simply because of who was offering them. I don't need the abuse. But I will post them if enough ask me to with an eye toward a reasonable discussion of the merits. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,320 |
| | Posted: | | | | I for one am always willing to hear out any idea... I may or may not agree with it... but I always am willing to hear it. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 278 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Personally, I would call that a clamshell. But if that's what you want to call a digipack with no cover, who am I to say otherwise? How the hell is that a clamshell? The things you come out with sometimes truly astonish me. | | | | Guns don't kill people. Hammers do. |
| | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kevin Coed: Quote:
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Personally, I would call that a clamshell. But if that's what you want to call a digipack with no cover, who am I to say otherwise?
How the hell is that a clamshell? The things you come out with sometimes truly astonish me. Kevin, what do you say it is? | | | | Dan |
|  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | I wouldn't dare to speak for Kevin, but I obviously say it's a digipak. IMHO this really couldn't be simpler - if anyone has any doubts, then I'd suggest comparing Kevin's photo with the 'Notting Hill' digipak in Dan's thread. The only difference is that the 'Notting Hill' digipak holds two discs, while Kevin's example holds just one. It's beyond me how anyone could possibly consider it a clamshell, or anything else. Don't tell me we need another poll to determine this...  I think that with Ken's changes and his clarification we have a perfectly fine system, that, judging by the results of the various polls, matches with the vast majority of the users' view on case types. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
I wouldn't dare to speak for Kevin, but I obviously say it's a digipak. IMHO this really couldn't be simpler - if anyone has any doubts, then I'd suggest comparing Kevin's photo with the 'Notting Hill' digipak in Dan's thread. The only difference is that the 'Notting Hill' digipak holds two discs, while Kevin's example holds just one. It's beyond me how anyone could possibly consider it a clamshell, or anything else. Don't tell me we need another poll to determine this...
I think that with Ken's changes and his clarification we have a perfectly fine system, that, judging by the results of the various polls, matches with the vast majority of the users' view on case types. Then maybe you could explain to me exactly what the difference is between the two, other than a slightly different plastic piece that holds the disk? And notice we're talking ONLY about the single disc version of each. | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's hard to explain in words but a clamshell cover has two plastic "lips" opposite each other, so that when you close the case one lip fits snugly inside the other keeping the case closed. Very much like the old rental style VHS cases you used to get (in the UK anyway).
The case illustrated is a digipak because it has no lips. |
| | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Locking lips........... I think I like that idea.
Later. | | | | Dan |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the offer... but I prefer gorillas!   |
| | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Thanks for the offer... but I prefer gorillas! Sorry, I lost my head for a second. I should have said "it gives me an idea." | | | | Dan |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here yuo go John.... The others I listed are 3-4 disc sets, but this prooves my point.   | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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