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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was checking the end credits against the profile for Shrek and see that all of the Additional Voices (Uncredited cast) are all listed/credited under an "ADR Group". Which is included in the Post Production portion of the credits.
Is it correct or not to include them in the cast?
Profile: Shrek: Two-Disc Special Edition UPC#667068901221
If they do get credited, then of course the uncredited tag would be unchecked?
These are listed on the Full Screen disc @ 1:27:57 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | They are credited as crew and not as cast so they are in fact uncredited. You can apply this rule: "If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role." to add the uncredited roles. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
They are credited as crew and not as cast so they are in fact uncredited. You can apply this rule: "If an actor is credited by name but does not have an associated role, you may use another source to identify the role." to add the uncredited roles. Wrong. They are credited...as crew. Therefore they are NOT uncredited. Since they are credited as ADR crew they do NOT get credited in DVD PRofiler! | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Uncredited (voice) actors may be included if you can prove they took part in making the movie and since they are credited under the name ADR Group (read: Dubbing (filmmaking)) it really isn't too hard. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
Uncredited (voice) actors may be included if you can prove they took part in making the movie and since they are credited under the name ADR Group (read: Dubbing (filmmaking)) it really isn't too hard. UNCREDITED means their names appear NOWHERE in the CREDITS...thus the term UNCREDITED. Are you purposely being dense or what? These individuals are CREDITED as ADR CREW! Therefore they are NOT UNCREDITED and you CANNOT list them as UNCREDITED. Unbelievable  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| | Posted: | | | | Except, as Max points out, they ARE credited. They are credited with an ADR position, which means they did voice work as crew, not actors. This is not the same as a director, a producer, a writer, etc. making an uncredited cameo. These people were credited with the job they actually did. Since they were, we shouldn't enter them as 'uncredited'. Edit: I need to learn to type faster.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Posted: | | | | Just to make it clear.
The Additional voices cast that are currently in this profile should be removed? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Just to make it clear.
The Additional voices cast that are currently in this profile should be removed? Absolutely. They are credited as ADR Crew...NOT cast and thus need to be removed as we don't credit crew members as cast. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
we don't credit crew members as cast. Let's all remember that whenever someone starts entering stunt crew again...  For the record: I might be inclined to include any voice actors as part of the cast list. Listing them as (uncredited) is absolutely out of the question, though: either you enter them, or you don't. Not some kind of strange workaround, which doesn't even work - this becomes obvious when one of them needs a "common name": something you can't do with (uncredited) entries. We're probably not going to reach an agreement on whether they can be included, but they ARE credited on-screen: using (uncredited) is really not an option. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Did anyone read this part of the link I posted (" This is also true for computer-generated imagery, since some of the "actors" were not actually present at the set. In addition, ADR is also used to change the lines which the actor originally said while being filmed.")? The people who are credited as ADR Group can be heard in the movie and therefore may be included as Additional Voices. There's nothing in the rules which tells us that people who are credited as crew may not be allowed to be included as uncredited cast. I often have seen other profiles which included all sorts of crew members who appeared visibly in a movie, so I don't see why members who are only audible should be an exception. Whether they did a cameo or whatever should not make any difference. Stuntmen or women aren't visibly recognizable so I don't see a reason to include them. | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
We're probably not going to reach an agreement on whether they can be included, but they ARE credited on-screen: using (uncredited) is really not an option. I have to agree; They could be added as/corrected to "ADR Group (voice)" and not as/to "Additional Voices (uncredited)". | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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