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Needed, but not yet found Birth Years
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Thought it would be good to have a thread were we can collect the needed, but not yet contributed or found Birth Years.

Seen some postings in the "Accepted Birth Year" thread, but I thought it would be good to leave this separate to not destroy the Overview in the accepted Birth Year thread.
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Barbara Bush 1964, actress in "Alien Nation"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0879148/

Barbara Bush 1925, wife of George H. W. Busch, ... In Profiles for "Nixon" and perhaps "Fahrenheit 9/11"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Bush
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124093/

Barbara Bush 1981, perhaps in Profiles for "Fahrenheit 9/11"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Pierce_Bush
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124094/
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This is one that has to be first checked. (Costs time bacause of the many possibilities)
Michael Hagerty
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002235/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0353548/
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There are several Michael Beck (IMDb), at least these three are different:


Michael Beck (1949) - US Actor (The Warriors, JAG, ...)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0065235/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beck

Michael Beck (????) - Actor (Numb, ...)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1696967/

Michael Beck (????) - German Actor (Herr Lehmann)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1453281/
 
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There are several Michael Beck (IMDb), at least these three are different:


Michael Beck (1949) - US Actor (The Warriors, JAG, ...)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0065235/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beck

Michael Beck (????) - Actor (Numb, ...)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1696967/

Michael Beck (????) - German Actor (Herr Lehmann)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1453281/


You missed Michael Beck 1967, German musician from "Die Fantastischen Vier" in database in several Music DVDs:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Beck_%28Hip-Hop-Musiker%29
http://www.diefantastischenvier.de/Michi-Beck.47.0.html
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But I bet he's rather credited as Michi Beck, DJ Hausmarke or Die Fantastischen Vier than under his real name Michael Beck... only a guess though 
 
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But I bet he's rather credited as Michi Beck, DJ Hausmarke or Die Fantastischen Vier than under his real name Michael Beck... only a guess though 

Correct.  But in some profiles he's also credited as Michael Beck, so it's also needed. Common name can change and not all users use linking of names.
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If we take the CLT results as correct in this case, then you're right 
 
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But in some profiles he's also credited as Michael Beck, so it's also needed.

No, it doesn't work that way. Birth years are only allowed to distinguish between identical common names. If one them is mostly credited under a different name variant, then no birth years are necessary - instead we use the common name to distinguish one from the other.
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But in some profiles he's also credited as Michael Beck, so it's also needed.

No, it doesn't work that way. Birth years are only allowed to distinguish between identical common names. If one them is mostly credited under a different name variant, then no birth years are necessary - instead we use the common name to distinguish one from the other.


Thanks, good to know.    Don't want to start a discussion, but what about users that don't know the common name? They've in this case not the possibility to distinguish. 
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I think it's a good idea to collect such BYs in this thread anyway, for users who want to use that locally (if we can find them in the first place).
I tend to use BYs locally for names that are sufficiently/suspiciously familiar. It is not uncommon for common names to change.
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what about users that don't know the common name?

Generally, when you're doing the research to find birth years, that means you'll stumble upon possible name variants right then and there: many of the sites listing birth years also present known name variants. Birth years and common are really two facets of one process: researching those people. If you're trying to document which credit belongs to which actor, you're pretty much bound to stumble upon a list of known name variants as well. It's all part of the research process; you really can't separate the two. Generally, I've found that the people who care enough about cast and crew data to be busy adding birth years where needed, are the same people who have the common names in their database sorted out nicely as well.
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I feel that in the Years to come... Profiler will have YOD ... which makes sense as I often wonder if old such and such is still alive ... and this could also be a benchmark to the ones who are very much alive with the same name ... 
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Amanda Walker (19??) - Scottish actress (The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, 28 Weeks Later, Wimbledon, The English Patient, ...)
http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm0907510/
http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/123337
http://www.spotlight.com/interactive/cv/1/F14807.html

Amanda Walker (19??) - US actress (A League of Their Own)
http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm1042298/
http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/individual/1070095


Couldn't find any BY. Perhaps someone else has more luck?

Several sites don't distinguish betwenn the two Amanda Walker's, so I'm not entirely sure about it... But I have a headshot of a much younger Amanda Walker in my db (not added by me).
 
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Is this your young Amanda Walker? click


Btw, what I found nice: No birth year on imdb, but the exact height with 1,63 m. 
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Is this your young Amanda Walker? click

Nope, that's Jaime Ray Newman.

EDIT: I don't own A League of Their Own, I only came across it when I searched for new headshots...

EDIT2: That's the image in HSDBv5. Couldn't find proof that she's actually the Amanda Walker from A League of Their Own, though.


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Btw, what I found nice: No birth year on imdb, but the exact height with 1,63 m. 

Let's just use that as BY 
 
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